Content Creation and General Usage Performance Commentary
This area is the only mixed bag in evaluating our Opteron running at 2.0GHz. While the new AMD chips perform much better than the previous generation in Multimedia Content Creation, they continue to lag behind the best Pentium 4 solutions. However, performance is now competitive and final chipset and processor tweaks may indeed make this a stronger area for Athlon64. General Usage/Business Winstone has always been a stronger area for Athlon. Performance is again competitive, but since nForce2/Athlon is the leader in this performance area, we fully expect the release versions to perform much better than we are currently seeing.
I'd like to see some benchmarks where the opteron's advanatges could really be used:
1) some database or rendering benchmarks on workstations with more than 4GB of ram and large worksets that use more that 4G.
x86/pentium cpus have to use a segmented memory architecture becuase of the 4G address space, so it's kind of like swapping, and is alot slower than direct access that a 64 bit chip has.
2) how about some 64bit benchmarks on linux?
Quake3 runs natively on linux, why have I seen none? Laziness, or lack of technical knowledge?
Intel will have a 100w toaster oven to compete with AMD, that and probably SSE3 just to make everyone recompile and distance AMD again. That and of course a 1mb cache.
Isn't that Xenon have a 1MB but L3? That means it has 1.5MB, and still lags.
Impressive cpu but it would've been nice to see how much of an improvement the extra 200mhz made...unless I'm missing something here...does anyone have a link that has a 1.8ghz opteron and a 9800 pro?
Hrm, as I am sure Intel has samples of the Opteron CPUs, its kinda surprising to see them not have anything significant ready to counter.. I highly doubt the Prescott will perform more than 10-20% better than the fastest Northwood P4.. If can't, then it'll definitely be slower than these new Opterons.. Let's see if Intel can counter, or else its gonna be a bloodshed for them..
This is all very exciting stuff for AMD fans...but as a dually enthusiast, I wonder why there are no benchmarking stats for a top-end Athlon MP workstation/gaming solution? Why include the Xeon dually and not an Athlon dually? Certainly in the Content Creation areas we'd see a landslide for the good old dual MP mobos...imagine a 150 MHz FSB PC3200 2.6 GHz overclocked Barton 2500+ dually w/ the Radeon 9800...best price/performance ever IMHO...
As Anand and many others have been saying for months, Athlon64 is supposed to be single-channel Socket 754 and able to use unbuffered memory. Since the rumored FX Enthusiast version is said to be Socket 940 it will fit Opteron boards like the Asus SK8N, so will be dual-channel. Thus far the only ones I have seen from these aleady RELEASED motherboards have required registered memory - ECC or non-ECC - but that could of course change with later releases.
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StuckMojo - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
I'd like to see some benchmarks where the opteron's advanatges could really be used:
1) some database or rendering benchmarks on workstations with more than 4GB of ram and large worksets that use more that 4G.
x86/pentium cpus have to use a segmented memory architecture becuase of the 4G address space, so it's kind of like swapping, and is alot slower than direct access that a 64 bit chip has.
2) how about some 64bit benchmarks on linux?
Quake3 runs natively on linux, why have I seen none? Laziness, or lack of technical knowledge?
sprockkets - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
Intel will have a 100w toaster oven to compete with AMD, that and probably SSE3 just to make everyone recompile and distance AMD again. That and of course a 1mb cache.Isn't that Xenon have a 1MB but L3? That means it has 1.5MB, and still lags.
PointlesS - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
Impressive cpu but it would've been nice to see how much of an improvement the extra 200mhz made...unless I'm missing something here...does anyone have a link that has a 1.8ghz opteron and a 9800 pro?Anonymous User - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
Minor correction on page 2. nForce was the first AMD based board to use HyperTransport IIRC, not the nForce2Anonymous User - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
Hrm, as I am sure Intel has samples of the Opteron CPUs, its kinda surprising to see them not have anything significant ready to counter.. I highly doubt the Prescott will perform more than 10-20% better than the fastest Northwood P4.. If can't, then it'll definitely be slower than these new Opterons.. Let's see if Intel can counter, or else its gonna be a bloodshed for them..Evan Lieb - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
#13,Because CPU supply right now is EXTREMELY tight. Wait until the end of the month for more info on dual Opteron/A64 performance numbers. :)
Take care,
Evan
Anonymous User - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
This is all very exciting stuff for AMD fans...but as a dually enthusiast, I wonder why there are no benchmarking stats for a top-end Athlon MP workstation/gaming solution? Why include the Xeon dually and not an Athlon dually? Certainly in the Content Creation areas we'd see a landslide for the good old dual MP mobos...imagine a 150 MHz FSB PC3200 2.6 GHz overclocked Barton 2500+ dually w/ the Radeon 9800...best price/performance ever IMHO...Wesley Fink - Friday, September 5, 2003 - link
As Anand and many others have been saying for months, Athlon64 is supposed to be single-channel Socket 754 and able to use unbuffered memory. Since the rumored FX Enthusiast version is said to be Socket 940 it will fit Opteron boards like the Asus SK8N, so will be dual-channel. Thus far the only ones I have seen from these aleady RELEASED motherboards have required registered memory - ECC or non-ECC - but that could of course change with later releases.tazdevl - Thursday, September 4, 2003 - link
Also, I was under the impression that the socket 939/940 boards will support unbuffered memory.tazdevl - Thursday, September 4, 2003 - link
I'd like to see a temp comparison between all the CPUs.