The Newcomers

As we briefly mentioned, there are three new products to talk about today – the Radeon 9800 XT, the Radeon 9600 XT and then NVIDIA’s NV38.

The XT line of Radeon 9x00 cards is specifically targeted at the very high end of the gaming market. With AMD and their Athlon 64 FX, Intel and the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, it’s not too surprising to see even more companies going this direction. With an ultra-premium part like the Radeon 9800 XT the profit margins are high and more importantly, the PR opportunities are huge – claiming the title of world’s fastest desktop GPU never hurts.

The effort required to produce a part like the Radeon 9800 XT is much lower than a serious redesign. When making any kind of chip (CPU, GPU, chipset, etc…) the design team is usually given a cutoff point where they cannot make any more changes to the design, and that is the design that will go into production. However, it is very rare that manufacturers get things right on the first try. Process improvements and optimizing of critical paths within a microprocessor are both time intensive tasks that require a good deal of experience.

Once ATI’s engineers had more experience with the R350 core and more time with it they began to see where the limitations of the GPU’s clock speed existed; remember that your processor can only run as fast as its slowest speed path so it makes a great deal of sense to change the layout and optimize the use of transistors, etc… to speed up the slow paths within your GPU. This oversimplified process is what ATI and their foundry engineers have been working on and the results are encompassed in the R360 – the core of the Radeon 9800 XT.

The Radeon 9800 XT is able to run at a slightly higher core frequency of 412MHz, quite impressive for ATI’s 0.15-micron chip (yes, this is the same process that the original R300 was based on). Keep in mind that the Radeon 9800 Pro ran at 380MHz and you’ll see that this 8% increase in clock speed is beginning to reach the limits of what ATI can do at 0.15-micron.

The Radeon 9800 XT does receive a boost in memory speed as well, now boasting a 365MHz DDR memory clock (730MHz effective) – an increase of 7% over the original Radeon 9800 Pro and an increase of 4% over the 256MB 9800 Pro. ATI was much more proud of their core clock improvements as we will begin to crave faster GPU speeds once more shader intensive games come out.

The Radeon 9800 XT does have a thermal diode (mounted on-package but not on-die) that has a driver interface that will allow the card to automatically increase its core speed if the thermal conditions are suitable. The GPU will never drop below its advertised 412MHz clock speed, but it can reach speeds of up to 440MHz as far as we know. The important thing to note here is that ATI fully warrantees this overclocking support, an interesting move indeed. Obviously they only guarantee the overclock when it is performed automatically in the drivers, as they do not rate the chips for running at the overclocked speed in all conditions.

The OverDrive feature, as ATI likes to call it, will be enabled through the Catalyst 3.8 drivers and we’ll be sure to look into its functionality once the final drivers are made available.

The Radeon 9800 XT will be available in the next month or so and it will be sold in 256MB configurations at a price of $499 – most likely taking the place of the Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB.

Index The Radeon 9600XT & NV38
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  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    - no contrast between AVAILABLE nvidia detonators and the UNRELEASED drivers used to benchmark.
    - it was unclear which games were using dx8 or dx9 features for these benchmarks without having previous knowledge.
    - more focus placed on performance with older existing games i.e. dx8, Arent top of the line $500 gfx cards intended for use with future games? i.e. dx9
    - image quality issues not adequately discussed (major issues glazed over leaving false impressions of performance in 'some' cards), they may be covered in an upcoming article however alone this particular article may be misleading.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    #38 Well i made it hard for you to understand I guess because you are the only one who complained. Btw. I did not post #36. So there are more of us... :)

    Will sign with the whiner for now.

    The whiner
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I don't mind either. I still have my 3DFX Voodoo 3 and 32bit at all is only for whiners!
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    OK, you didn't mistype it, you just made it totally unclear and impossible for anyone to really understand. No big deal.

    However, to imply that Anandtech should have spent time doing IQ testing instead of NV38 testing is nothing sort of ridiculous. No one (except you apparently) wants to see IQ testing instead of NV38 testing.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I d like to see q3 in your benchmarking suite again.
    it s still the only q3engine game where a brand new graphics card can run smoothly with Fsaa and AF on highest quality settings
    important is also that the timedemo is full of action an filled with a lot of players
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I have always been an Nvidia fanboy, and I don’t mind running my card in 16bit texture quality.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    So I'm the only one who picked up on the "we'll do IQ in part 2" thing?
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    Not that reviews was the subject. LOL Well, perhaps I don't know grammar better than you but I did not mistype anything.

    Fact is that "they" can only refer to "the other sites" and not Anandtech.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    Okay, on other sites is not a subject but "they" can not refer to "reviews" (the context forbids that). So hopefully you understand now that "they" can only refer to "the other sites" since I did not mention Anandtech there. :)
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    #32 Okay a second time and I will take you by the hand (please respond with a joke about me being gay):

    This is what I wrote (the whole paragraph):

    "Perhaps YOU are clueless. I don't need to wait for complete reviews on other sites. And yes, they might have had more time as they did not benchmark NV38. However that they did not get NV38 makes this review even more suspicious."

    I wrote about reviews on other sites there. You see? From that moment on every "they" automatically refers to "the other sites" until I come up with a new subject? Okay? That is grammar and hard to understand but you will get there.

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