Samsung 172X: 12ms Response Time for 17" LCD
by Kristopher Kubicki on June 8, 2004 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Samsung LTM170EX
The cornerstone of any good LCD monitor is the panel. Samsung's 172X is no exception. We have talked about different display modes and LCD panels in the past. Today, we want to talk about a display mode that is traditionally different from Samsung's PVA (Pattern Vertical Alignment) display mode. We will talk about TN or twisted nematic mode.If you have read our LCD primer, you may already be familiar with Twisted Nematic display modes, or other variations on TN, such as TN with some sort of Frame Rate Control. Sharp's LL-191A LCD uses a TN display mode, and we also explained that in the review.
In a nutshell, the problem with current LCD displays is that many of them cannot break the 25ms response time barrier. Response time has quickly become the most important specification when buying an LCD. In most cases, we call the "average" response time the time it takes a pixel to twist and untwist, also known as "time rising, time falling" (we abbreviate that as "TrTf"). As manufacturers approach the boundary of display technologies such as PVA, MVA and IPS, it appears the industry has come full circle; back to the original TN technology used in some of the first LCDs.
Here is the problem: as manufacturers continue to stretch the limitations of their slightly different twisting methods, they begin to hit the theoretical limit for how fast their twisting technology can work. Granted, each technology has advantages and disadvantages, particularly in the realm of viewing angle and color replication. Within the last year, however, AUO, LG Philips LCD, and now Samsung have all readopted the TN technology with some minor tweaks.
Just like the Hitachi CML174 and the Sharp LL-191A, the Samsung 172X uses a 6-bit LCD panel. Our particular SyncMaster 172X uses the Samsung LTM170EX, one of Samsung's newest panels not even listed directly on the website. You can find out more information through a Samsung Semiconductor brochure. Notice that the monitor claims 16.2M color replication - a 6-bit LCD with a dithering technology. In reality, this LCD can only produce 262,000 color shades, but by using a method of frame rate control, the panel controller can adjust voltages to emulate out of bound gray scales.
Aside from the 6-bit display, most things concerning the LTM170EX are quite outstanding. The 500:1 contrast ratio seems about right for a TN based display. Our monitor produces 270 cd/m2 brightness; although, we suspect the European version may actually produce 300cd/m2. Last, but not least, the response time claims an impressive sub-13ms response time. There is a small footnote stating that these results are measured at 25 degrees Celsius (77 degrees Fahrenheit). We suspect that the transition periods may be higher at lower temperatures, since the liquid crystals are at a slightly higher state of solidity.
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operator - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
#7That's myth. There's a lot of articles debunking said fact.
synic - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
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jdreyer - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
If the human eye is only capable of detecting 60 frames per second (one frame every 16 ms), why do we need response times any faster than that?Mithan - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I had one of these for a week and I found it to be a fairly good monitor, though there was a tad bit of ghosting in games like UT2004, however it was extremly playable.The main problem I had with this monitor is that I had to order 3 of them before I got one that didn't have a burnt or stuck pixel.
JGF - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I've decided that LCD's still arent for me yet and purchased a Mitsubishi 19' 930SB CRT. Gorgeous monitor.T8000 - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
When you select the 16 bit color mode in Windows or in games, does that disable color shifting, because 16 bit is less then 3 x 6 bit?AlexWade - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
No, you can stop waiting. I've got a 19" LG.Philips S-IPS panel and I notice absolutely NO streaking and ghosting in anything, even though official response time is 25 ms. I paid a hair under $600 for the 19" LG 1910S. Its Analog only. And the text isn't too sharp. I don't like that. Still, it cost less than the Samsung monitors.The NEC 1996NXi (the numbers may be off) is also a S-IPS panel. But it costs more and is harder to find than the LG.
Phiro - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I dunno, sounds pretty good to me. If it was $300 I'd try to buy it. Currently $540, I'm going to bookmark this on their realtime price thing and check it every week for awhile.araczynski - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
so...just keep waiting as usual...