Socket 754 Roundup, Part 3: Asus, Soltek & DFI
by Wesley Fink on September 14, 2004 12:03 AM EST- Posted in
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Asus K8N-E: Overclocking and Stress Testing
FSB Overclocking Results
Front Side Bus Overclocking Testbed | |
Default Voltage | |
Processor: | Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz |
CPU Voltage: | 1.5V (default) |
Cooling: | Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Heatsink/Fan |
Power Supply: | OCZ Power Stream 520W |
Memory: | OCZ PC3200 EL Platinum Rev. 2 or Geil PC3200 Ultra X |
Maximum OC: (Standard Ratio) |
246 x 10 (IDE), 230 x 10 (SATA) 2460MHz (+23%) |
Maximum FSB: (Lower Ratio) |
271 x 9 (1:1 Memory, IDE, 2 DIMMs) 230 x 9 at (1:1 Memory, SATA, 2 DIMMs) |
The decision by Asus to use Silicon Image SATA instead is really a drawback in overclocking. Whether using the 2 nVidia SATA channels or any of the 4 Sil3114 channels, the highest overclock that we could achieve with our standard SATA drive was 230, much lower than some other nF3-250 boards. When using an IDE drive, the K8N-E fared better, reaching a stable 271 FSB at 1:1 before failing boot. While this is a much better overclock, it is still below the performances of the DFI, MSI, Epox, and Chaintech 754 boards that we have tested.
Due to the overclock limits found with SATA drives on the Asus, we would recommend using IDE drives with the Asus if you plan to overclock. The Asus can handle reasonable overclocks with a SATA drive, and we confirmed AGP/PCI is definitely working. However, the highest overclocks could only be achieved using IDE hard drives.
Memory Stress Test Results:
The memory stress test is very basic, as it tests the ability of the Asus K8N-E to operate at its officially supported memory frequency (400MHz DDR), at the best performing memory timings that our OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev. 2 modules will support. Memory stress testing was conducted by running RAM at 400MHz with 2 DIMM slots filled. However, please keep in mind that Socket 754 is single-channel and will still operate at top speed with just one DIMM.Stable DDR400 Timings - 2 DIMMs (2/3 Dimms populated - Single-Channel mode) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz |
CAS Latency: | 2.0 |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 2T |
RAS Precharge: | 10T* |
Precharge Delay: | 2T |
Command Rate: | 1T |
The Asus K8N-E was completely stable with 2 DIMMs at the best performing settings of 2-2-2-10, at default speed. Command Rate was set to Auto, but is reported as performing at 1T in SiSoft Sandra benchmarks.
Filling all three available memory slots is more strenuous on the memory sub-system than testing 2 DIMMs on a motherboard.
Stable DDR400 Timings - 3 DIMMs (3/3 DIMMs populated - Single-Channel mode) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz |
CAS Latency: | 2.0 |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 2T |
RAS Precharge: | 10T* |
Precharge Delay: | 2T |
Command Rate: | 2T |
We were very pleased to find that 3 DS DIMMs (1.5GB) of memory worked fine at the same aggressive timings that we used for 2 DIMMs. This is very good performance for the K8N-E in our memory stress test. However, we should point out that while the Asus was stable in most of our benchmark tests with 3 DIMMs, it was not completely stable in Quake 3 or Return to Castle Wolfenstein with 3 DIMMs. Memory voltage increases were just not an option. It appears that our fast memory really wants 2.8V with 3 DIMMs and this shows up in some games. The limited memory voltage range may well be your real limiter in overclocking with 3 DIMMs.
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MemberSince97 - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Boy, ya sure dont here much noise from FIC these days.MemberSince97 - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Edit ^^^Mr Fink.........MemberSince97 - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Good job Mr Finks, Keep on truckin...Wesley Fink - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Things can change. Ask anyone who has gone from madly in love to a divorce :-)I was very clear that 939 is still faster at the same speed by 2% to 5%. We really expected 939 to make a bigger performance difference than it does when we wrote the pre-939 review. We also had no idea at that point that AMD would keep 939 so much more expensive than 754 and introduce value A64s only in 754 clothes.
I really don't think there is anything inconsistent in our statements. 939 still performs better at the same speed, but many can't or won't pay the current price of 939 admission. 754 can also pass 939 in performance if you can reach higher overclocks with 754.
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
#3 - Good luck connecting your IDE cable to a SATA port. I understand your point, but most everyone understands IDE refers to the 40-pin connector.draazeejs - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Nice article, but I think AT should stay a bit consistent in their statements. Approx. a week before the s939 for A64 was released, they said - wait, do not buy any s754 mobos and CPUs, s939 is the future bla bla bla. Now, 2 months later, they even suggest to buy s754, because the s939 is just by far too expensive at the moment. Money rules the world...Zepper - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
FYI: SATA=IDE, to differentiate, it's SATA and PATA....bh.
Avalon - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
I wonder why the DFI board suffers those two noticeable drops in Specviewperf. Not that Specviewperf is something that matters to me, but it's a bit weird.thebluesgnr - Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - link
Will AnandTech review the ASRock K8 Combo-Z board?