Fall 2004 DVDR Roundup: Dual Layer and 16X DVD+R
by Anand Shimpi & Virginia Lee on November 1, 2004 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Pioneer DVR-108D
We took our first look at the Pioneer 108D under the official US firmware (at the time) back in August. Since then, we retested the drive with lots of new media and a newer firmware. Pioneer and NEC arguably share the title of most mature 16X solutions available - both drives have been available for three months now.Below, you can see the individual specifications of the drive.
Pioneer DVR-108D 16x DVD-/+RW Drive | |
Interface | PATA |
CD Write Speed | 32X, 24X ZCLV 16X, 8X, 4X CLV |
CD Rewrite Speed | 24X ZCLV 16X, 10X, 4X CLV |
CD Read Speed | 40X MAX CAV |
DVD-R Write Speed | 16X, 12X, 8X CLV 4X, 2X, 1X |
DVD-RW Rewrite Speed | 4X, 2X, 1X CLV |
DVD+R Write Speed | 16X, 12X, 8X ZCLV 4X, 2.4X |
DVD+RW Rewrite Speed | 4X, 2.4X CLV |
DVD+DL Write Speed | 2.4X CLV |
DVD-RAM Read Speed | 2X CLV |
DVD Read Speed | 16X MAX CAV |
Supported Modes | DAO / DAO-RAW 16 & 96 TAO SAO / RAW SAO, RAW SAO 16 & 96 Packet Write Multi-Session |
Supported Formats | DVD+R (DAO, incremental, seq) DVD+RW (random) DVD-R (DAO, incremental, seq) DVD-RW (restricted overwrite) CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, CD-DA, Mixed Mode, CD Extra Photo CD, CD Text, Bootable CD, UDF |
Access Time | CD: 130ms DVD: 140ms |
Buffer | 2MB |
Since Pioneer is our definitive 16X recorder that we have already reviewed, we are comparing all of our specifications against it. The most disappointing aspect of the drive that we have noticed during our analysis over these last few weeks has been the (relatively) slow CDR burn speeds. DVDR burn speeds are excellent, and the drive technically supports 4X DVD+DL burn speeds, even though it does not readily advertise such. You can see our original DL tests on the drive here.
Retail versions of the drive come with a redesigned bezel look. For the OEM version that we obtained for the review, the bezel retains the same bland pale design seen in the Pioneer 107 and 106D (and its derivatives).
The drive is recognized in Nero's Infotool as such:
Here's a high resolution scan of the topside of the DVR-108D showing off its label.
Below, you can see another high resolution scan of the drive's internal components.
Our drive came with the NEC D63635GM and C3335 chipsets featuring Hynix DRAM. NEC's D63635 digital signal processor (DSP) was the first to 16X, and thus far, has a very stable track record. Keep in mind, even though the NEC 3500A and the Pioneer 108D utilize the same controllers and servos, they are designed and built completely different. NEC's design revolves around a single double-sided PCB with differing flash/DRAM solutions. The Pioneer drive also supports reading of DVD-RAM media at 5X speeds. There are many similarities between the drives, such as the multi-chip analog controller approach.
A few other drives on the market, like the ASUS DRW-1604P, are built on the same design and chipset, and generally offer identical performance. However, the Pioneer 108D has the most mature firmware and reference design; its performance should equal or surpass other models on the same platform.
Feel free to download the performance graphs for the DVR-108D here.
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Operandi - Monday, November 1, 2004 - link
For future reference if you are going to bother taking pictures of the drives take a picture of somthing useful, the drive bezel. nobody cares what the circut board PCB looks like.xsilver - Monday, November 1, 2004 - link
Also is there somewhere where I can find tests on reading regular dvd-9 movies? my liton 16x reader goes completely ape when there is any scratches on the disc, the 106d is much slower but plugs through.This is when using dvd decrypter
and who the hell uses cd's anymore? dvd's are so much cheaper per m/b to store data.... if someone doesn't have at least a dvd reader, I say quit trying to buy that l33t AMD64 / 6800 and get something useful!
PuravSanghani - Monday, November 1, 2004 - link
The bitsetting feature on this model is very limited with the current firmware in that only DVD+R DL media will be autoset to the DVD-ROM booktype.KristopherKubicki - Monday, November 1, 2004 - link
>Also the 108d is the same price as the 3500a where I am.... would it be recommended then?I would still recommend the NEC-3500A. The faster CD writing is worth it.
Kristopher
xsilver - Monday, November 1, 2004 - link
Can the bitsetting option on the pioneer 108d be explained more? what will it auto set to?I have a 106d I want to upgrade and have found the pioneer to be much better than something like a liteon....
Also the 108d is the same price as the 3500a where I am.... would it be recommended then?