Morphing nForce4 Ultra into nForce4 SLI
by Wesley Fink on January 18, 2005 7:30 AM EST- Posted in
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Our Take
It really did not come as a surprise that nForce4 Ultra and nForce4 SLI are the same chipset with some capabilities in Ultra turned off. We have seen many cases over the years in which a manufacturer has one CPU-die or one chipset come off a production line, which are then differentiated with laser cuts or some other means of controlling speed or capabilities. What did come as a surprise is how very easy it is to reverse the process - to turn the nForce4 Ultra into the higher-priced and better-performing nForce4 SLI. This is an extremely easy mod for almost anyone.We suspect that there is more to the story, however, than just the fact that the chip can be modded to be seen by the system as being an SLI chip. nVidia design specifications actually dictate a different board design for Ultra than for SLI. We stated early in this article that DFI is using the exact same board for their SLI and Ultra versions of nForce4. We know that the mod works on the DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-D, but we did not have any other dual video slot Ultra board on which to test the SLI mod. We are expecting the Epox board any day, and we will certainly let you know if the SLI mod works on that board too.
The other surprise is how very close the x16/x2 dual video mode is in performance to the nVidia specified x8/x8. Performance ranged from a worst case of 88.8% of "true" SLI in Half life 2 1600x1200 4xAA/8xAF to slightly better than "true" SLI performance in Far Cry. These numbers are good enough that you can understand why MSI, DFI, and Epox were all planning to release dual-video boards based on the nForce4 Ultra chipset. With nVidia doing everything that they can in Forceware drivers to disable support for Ultra SLI, we can also well understand the reluctance of many manufacturers to try to bring Ultra SLI boards to market.
The discovery that the Ultra chipset can be easily modded to SLI removes a major obstacle to SLI performance on the cheaper Ultra boards - if the manufacturer made provisions for SLI. Once the SLI mod is complete, the system and nVidia drivers see the chipset as a full SLI chipset. This removes the driver issues and the ability of nVidia to turn off support in "non-complying Ultra SLI chipsets".
The DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-D will sell for about $140. With the simple mod, it is a fully capable nF4 SLI motherboard. As you will see in our upcoming reviews, it is also one of the most enthusiast-friendly boards to land on the market since the DFI Socket 754 motherboard. For now, the only board that we know which can be fully converted from Ultra to SLI is this DFI LANParty UT, but there are others on the way, and we are sure it will not be the last. As new Ultra boards with dual-video capabilities arrive, we will let you know if they are up to the conversion task.
When we first found out that an nF4 Ultra could be morphed into an SLI, we felt like kids in a candy shop. The feeling was much like the discovery almost 2 years ago when the Intel 865 chipset could have PAT enabled, so it performed like the 875. In this case, the payoff could be on the order of 25% to 80% performance increase with full SLI compared to single video card performance - much better than the few percent performance improvement that made PAT the must-have feature on 865 boards.
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Fluff - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
Pencil trick to make a Quadro 4000 i would like to see!!!cosmotic - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
(oh wait)cosmotic - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
Nice comment Dranzerk!Fluff - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
Oh come on guys. This sort of thing is nice to know. But would you seriously splash out on 2 graphics cards and scrimp on the motherboard?Dranzerk - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
Our Take forgot to add...Getting SLI at anytime counts are you being a moron for spending so much money regardless of a mod that saves you a few bucks. SLI = Worst nvidia ploy ever.
I mean come on nvidia, think up something original than what everyone else has did.
Filibuster - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
This reminds me of the Promise Ultra100 to Fasttrak100 mod."Nvidia.... that greedy money hogging .... trying to milk us customers for all our worth."
Lol...they _are_ a semiconductor company, what did you expext? Last I noticed none of these guys are not for profit agencies...the fun is in outsmarting them (unlock and overclock, unlocking pipelines, turning on sli).
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
ALL -We apologize for the posting confusion with this article. It was scheduled to go live this morning, but was accidentally auto-posted around midnight by our document engine. We immediately pulled it down and posted this morning as originally planned. That is why some of the comments have odd times for a 7:30AM post.
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PseudoKnight - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
Don't get me wrong. I think this was great investigative work. I just hope it proves fruitful at the retail level.Jii - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
I knew something like this had to be lurking underneath and here we were again.It's great to see that there are people who have the time and imagination to start even looking this opportunity and bring this to public.
The only drawback is that now Nvidia knows that we know the thing, that they didn't want us to know, that we now know (you know) ;-).
But seriously: As the modding possibility came to public view, my best guess is that Nvidia will, instead of tweaking their drivers, start modifying the chip structure in a way, that such modifications will become harder to accomplish, completely impossible or will make no difference.
Aquila76 - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link
>>As you will see in our upcoming reviews, it is also one of the most enthusiast-friendly boards to land on the market since the DFI Socket 754 motherboard.<<BRING ON THE REVIEWS!!!
Do you have an ETA for the nForce4 roundup? I have a $3K tax return coming and am building an Uber-AMD64 SLI dual-Ultra rig and want to know which is the best SLI for the buck.