SFF Roundup, Part I: Socket 478 and 754 Systems
by Jarred Walton on February 15, 2005 2:00 PM EST- Posted in
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Biostar iDEQ 210P
Overview
Biostar is a tier two manufacturer that has been around for some time. As with many other manufacturers, Biostar started out making motherboards and over time, branched out into other areas such as graphics cards and now SFF systems. While the Shuttle XPC is generally regarded as the originator of the SFF PC concept, Biostar has followed closely behind with their iDEQ line. Today, we're taking a look at their 210P model, which is unique in this roundup for several reasons.Amazingly - at least to us - the iDEQ is the only socket 754 SFF that we've received for review. Looking around on the Internet, there are a few other manufacturers - Chenming, Shuttle, and Soltek, for example - that make socket 754 units, but we have not received any of them. As a socket 754 part, then, the iDEQ 210P stands alone in our roundup. Biostar also manufactures a number of other units of varying case designs. All of them appear to include a sliding front door, which we'll say more on in a moment, but if you're interested in something for socket A, 478 or 775, Biostar is worth a look. We'll be checking out their latest addition, the 300G, in the upcoming socket 775 roundup.
Aesthetics
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The overall look of the iDEQ is something that individuals will have to assess for themselves. While it's not really ugly, we have to say that it is also not the best looking unit out there. The paint job looks good, but the biggest detractor has to be the front panel. With a large slide-down faceplate covering the optical drive and flash memory card reader, it ends up with something of a "top-heavy" look. The large, chrome power button is almost too big and definitely attracts the eye - and not necessarily in a good way. Even worse are the cycling colors of the power button when the unit is running. If the front of the unit is in plain view, you will find yourself frequently looking at it unless you slide the plate down. On the plus side, having the cover down blocks most of the light from being seen in the room, making it almost ideal for bedroom use.
Obviously, opinions on aesthetics will vary, but we're simply not too keen on the front panel. It looks better with the faceplate down, and really, we'd just as soon do without the whole sliding mechanism. We'll have more to say on the matter in the construction section. However, this is really just one opinion on the look of the case, and if you like a little "bling" in your system, you might appreciate it more. For us, the looks are really something of a shame, as they're one of the few things that we have issues with on the design!
One final thing to point out is that Biostar does offer a range of accessories for their cases, including a cover that includes a side window. That costs extra, of course, and several other companies have similar offerings. We do like the included carrying case that came with the system - tchotchkes are always entertaining. If you ever need to pack the unit to go off to a LAN party, the harness will help protect it from scratches and damage. Otherwise, it's not particularly useful.
Features
Biostar iDEQ 210P
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Dimension | (w)210 mm x (h)187 mm x (d)323 mm | |
CPU Support | AMD Socket 754 Sempron/Athlon 64 up to 3700+ (2.4GHz) | |
Memory Support | PC2100/PC2700/PC3200 up to 2GB; 2 DIMM slots | |
Motherboard | K8NBP (proprietary) NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb Chipset Bus speed 400/333/266MHz HyperTransport 800/1000MHz |
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Graphics | None - Add-in card required | |
Expansion Slots | 1 x PCI; 1 x AGP 8x; 1 x mini-PCI | |
Power Supply | 250W Enhance Power Supply 4 x 4-pin Molex; 2 x SATA; 1 x 4-pin FDD 4-pin ATX 12V; 20-pin ATX |
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Internal Connections | 2 x SATA; 2 x IDE; 1 x FDD; 1 x LPT; 1 x Game Parallel and Game Port cables included in package |
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Audio | Realtek ALC655 AC97 SW audio, 6 channel codec | |
LAN | 1 x Gigabit NVIDIA LAN | |
Memory Card Reader | Compact Flash Type I/II, Microdrive, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Secure Digital, MultiMedia Card, Smart Media Card |
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Drive Bay | 1 x 3.5 External (Flash Reader 2 x 3.5 Internal (HDD) 1 x 5.25 External (CD/DVD) |
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Front I/O | 2 x USB 2.0 1 x IEEE1394 (6pin) S/PDIF-in, MIC, Head-phone 7-in-1 memory card reader Power and Reset buttons Power Indicator (Color Cycling) HDD LED Indicator |
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Rear I/O | 2 x USB 2.0 1 x IEEE1394 (6pin) PS/2 KB, PS/2 Mouse 2 x Serial port RJ-45 LAN Port (10/100/1000Mbps) S/PDIF output Micropone, Line-in/out, Speaker out |
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Overclocking | HyperTransport 1X-5X; CPU 100-250; AGP 66-100 No voltage controls |
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Extras | None (mini-PCI slot) | |
Full Image Set | Biostar iDEQ 210P Pictures (2.3MB) | |
Manufacturer Link | Biostar iDEQ 210P |
Not only is the 210P our sole representative of socket 754, but it chooses to take the high performance route by using what is generally considered the best socket 754 chipset, the NVIDIA 250Gb. This, of course, gives the unit gigabit Ethernet along with the NVIDIA hardware firewall, both desirable features. The 210P is also the only unit we're looking at today that includes a mini PCI slot, which can be combined with a wireless networking card/modem while keeping your PCI slot available. No mini-PCI cards are included with the system, so you'll have to purchase such a card on your own. This is actually not a bad tactic to take, however, as it gives you control over the brand and features that you want. Consider the ASUS, for example, which includes 802.11B WiFi. While it's better than nothing, most people are now looking for 802.11G WiFi as the bare minimum, and newer standards like 802.11N are in the works.
In the more typical areas, the Biostar is able to match most competitors. Firewire, USB2.0, S/PDIF optical input and output, sound, and networking are all present and accounted for. Like a lot of other SFF cases, a flash card reader is also present in place of a floppy drive. In this case, it's again a 7-in-1 reader with support for the most common formats. (If you're like me and have an XD card, unfortunately, you're out of luck with all the units that we've received so far.) One of the nice extras with the iDEQ is that it includes a "True 250W" power supply. While it's not likely that you're going to put in a ton of high end parts in such a small case, the iDEQ is one of the very few cases to actually include a mounting bracket for two internal 3.5" hard drives. The extra 50W of the power supply relative to some competitors will certainly help should you choose to use both drive positions. Our testing did not uncover any issues with running two drives.
Also worthy of note is that the iDEQ 210P is the only SFF in this roundup that could actually use a two-slot graphics card. The AGP slot is located on the inside of the slot rather than the outside in order to allow this. Installing a single-slot GPU with a large PCI card next to it might present a problem if you're not careful, but for truly high-end performance the ability to use a 6800 Ultra or other two-slot card is a nice feature to set the 210P apart from the crowd.
We've commented on the quality of the front panel audio on many of the other units, and we're happy to report that the iDEQ was the sole unit in this roundup that didn't have any static on either audio connection. You may still need to mute the AUX, MIC, and/or Line-in ports, but once that's taken care of, the audio was very clean. One of the problems with a lot of the SFF units is that the audio capabilities are compromised by the use of auto-sensing jacks. It is not uncommon to see 5.1 speaker setups with most computers now, but if you want 5.1 speakers as well as microphone support, you're often forced to use the S/PDIF connectors. That is true of all five SFFs in this roundup, so if you use a microphone or line-in, take note of this fact. You'll either need an add-in sound card or you'll need to use one of the S/PDIF connections.
One last item to comment on is the overclocking features. If you're interested in trying to overclock this unit, the BIOS does provide some basic functionality. However, with no voltage controls present, overclocking attempts will certainly be limited.
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JarredWalton - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
#21 - We're working on getting the Iwill dual-CPU system. We'll see what Iwill has to say. :)#19 - The unit reviewed was the EA65-II. There is an EA65-IIa as well as an EA65-IIa 2.0. The only difference between the IIa models is the version of InstantON included, and I believe you can download the latest version and turn the IIa into the IIa 2.0. Does that make sense? Also, I don't think the IIa is available in the US yet, but should be within the next month or two.
If you don't mind a spoiler (yeah, right), the Pentium M desktop/HTPC that I have for review is louder than the SFFs in this roundup (other than the e-bot). However, it is a fully configured and loaded system with two HDDs, a 6800GT, etc. I've checked with the manufacturer about the noise levels and will see if I can get it reduced. Right now, the HSF is really huge - it looks like a Pentium 4 HSF, which is probably overkill for the Pentium M 2.0.
On a side note, if you haven't seen the die of the Dothan, it's REALLY SMALL! About half the size of a dime. Pretty crazy to see that much power in such a small size.
SUOrangeman - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
Request the Iwill ZMAXdp ($675 at NewEgg) for the next SFF piece! :)GoatHerderEd - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
NM, the firewire is on the front. I still thing there should be a port or two on the back though.silentcomputing - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
Nice job, Jarred.I am interesting in the Aopen EA65-IIa, but got confused about the new model name. You mentioned the new model is EA65-IIa first, but followed by EA64-IIa.... Is it a typo or is Aopen going to release AMD64 version of the EA in the near future.
When do you think you can have the P-M on desktop review?? I can't wait to have one... enough for the noise from any of my computers...including Shuttle and Dell..... :(
GoatHerderEd - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
#12, Wow, I got the Shuttle SN95G. But I really want that Iwill dual Opteron! That thing looks so sweet! No fire wire though )=#8, Why do you say the SN95G is unreliable? I think its pretty good. Boot up time isnt as fast as my Nforce2 XP 1800+, but its faster otherwise.
LoneWolf15 - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
Now that it looks like AMD is coming out with additional Socket 754 Sempron CPU's, the Biostar really looks like a good choice. It's not like one needs huge CPU power for a HTPC, as long as it does a good job of encoding/decoding, and the Sempron should also run fairly cool. Add a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150/250 and a discrete ATI graphics card (for additional hardware-assist MPEG-2 playback and VIVO) and it looks to be a really good choice.smn198 - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
I've said it before but would it be possible to present the non-linear noise measurements on a non-linear scale?That would more accurately show that with the IGP, the foxconn is over twice as loud as the others.
Don't mean to seem critical. Great read. That is why I keep coming back.
#3. Read the first few paragraphs of the review. Besides, it is very cheap now.
smn198 - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
"Shuttle is able to use a single fan to fool both the CPU as well as the case"I've been trying that for years but have never successfully managed to fool them both at once!
CrystalBay - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
Thanks JW, Iknow it's a lot to ask.JarredWalton - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
11, 12 - I'll have to see about those two units. For the Iwill, at least, they would either need to send processors or I would have to get some sent from AT HQ. I don't have any server parts at my location for testing.