SFF Roundup, Part I: Socket 478 and 754 Systems
by Jarred Walton on February 15, 2005 2:00 PM EST- Posted in
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Shuttle XPC SB61G2 V3.0
Overview
We wrap up this roundup with the granddaddy of SFF designers, the Shuttle XPC. Shuttle created the SFF market back in 2001, and it helped to establish the Shuttle brand throughout the world. While Shuttle has been around for over two decades, they were previously regarded as one of the lesser OEM-style manufacturers. Their products weren't necessarily bad, but they weren't anything special either. Today, Shuttle continues to manufacture motherboards, but they are extremely focused on the SFF market and continue to drive innovation in the segment.We'll be looking at other Shuttle XPC units in the upcoming roundups - we have no less than eight Shuttle SFFs in our labs right now! - but for this roundup, the only qualifying unit is the somewhat older SB61G2. Shuttle also has similar designs for socket 754 and even socket A, but we don't have those units. If you like the comments on this particular SFF, though, be sure to check out Shuttle's other offerings. The SB61G2 was one of the earlier designs from Shuttle, and this particular model is version 3.0. The G2 design is a very popular case, if you couldn't tell. As the saying goes, if it's not broken, don't fix it.
Aesthetics
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Many of the cases are available in different color schemes, but for this roundup, the Shuttle is the only silver case with a metal shell. The shell has a brushed aluminum finish that looks very nice, similar to what you find on many high-end ATX cases. Shuttle has chosen not to include drive doors on their G2 models, and unfortunately, this makes it somewhat difficult to match the silver color of the rest of the case. Be prepared to spend a few extra dollars and some time in order to get a matching optical drive and/or floppy. Shuttle offers such accessories - along with many others - at their eBay store as well as through several other resellers, if you want to save yourself some time.
The appearance from the front is very subdued and conservative, which many people will like. The chrome bolts that are present aren't strictly necessary, but that's about the only semi-complaint that we have with the appearance. The buttons on the front are all surrounded by a blue glow, and it looks nice, but some might feel they're a bit too bright. Overall, though, the case is very attractive and would fit in well in an office environment. Various alternative face plates and shells are available from Shuttle, so you can also go for something different like a red or blue case if that's your style. Those cost extra, however, and we tend to prefer a standard silver or black shell.
Features
Shuttle XPC SB61G2 V3.0
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Dimension | (w)200 mm x (h)185 mm x (d)300 mm | |
CPU Support | Intel Socket 478 Northwood/Prescott up to P4 3.4GHz | |
Memory Support | PC1600/PC2100/PC2700/PC3200 up to 2GB; 2 DIMM slots | |
Motherboard | FB61 (proprietary) Intel 865G/ICH5 Chipsets FSB 800/533/400MHz |
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Graphics | Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics 2 16MB shared memory architecture | |
Expansion Slots | 1 x PCI; 1 x AGP 8x | |
Power Supply | 250W Silent X Power Supply 3 x 4-pin Molex; 1 x 4-pin FDD 4-pin ATX 12V; 20-pin ATX |
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Internal Connections | 2 x SATA; 2 x IDE; 1 x FDD; 2 x USB2.0 5-pin; 1 x LPT | |
Audio | Realtek ALC650 AC97 SW audio, 6 channel codec | |
LAN | 1 x 10/100 Mbps | |
Drive Bay | 1 x 3.5 External 1 x 3.5 Internal (HDD) 1 x 5.25 External (CD/DVD) |
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Front I/O | 2 x USB 2.0 1 x IEEE1394 (4pin) Line-in, MIC, Head-phone Power & Reset buttons Power on & HDD LED indicators |
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Rear I/O | 4 x USB 2.0 1 x IEEE1394 (6pin) PS/2 KB, PS/2 Mouse VGA port (D-SUB) Serial port RJ-45 LAN Port (10/100Mbps) Micropone, Line-in, Speaker out |
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Overclocking | CPU 100-355; AGP/PCI 66/73/80 Vcc 0.825-1.5875V; DDR 2.60-2.75V; AGP 1.5-1.65V |
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Extras | ICE cooling | |
Full Image Set | Shuttle SB61G2V3 Pictures (1.7MB) | |
Manufacturer Link | Shuttle XPC SB61G2 V3 |
Due to the age of the design, several features have fallen behind the times. Most new SFFs include gigabit Ethernet, but this particular model is only 10/100 Mbit. If you don't have a home network, that really won't matter, and even if you do have a home network, a lot of people continue to use 100 Mbit routers/hubs/switches. The remaining features are in line with the other offerings: USB2.0, firewire, integrated audio and graphics, and S/PDIF optical input and output connections. Some of the other Shuttle XPCs include flash card readers pre-installed, but the SB61G2 does not. If you use such a feature regularly, that might factor into your purchasing decision, but most people can do without them. Worth mentioning is that the font port headphone connector was static-free once the AUX port was muted.
Internally, the Shuttle unit supports either IDE or SATA hard drives and comes with the IDE cable for the optical drive pre-installed. One external serial port is present, and there is also a punch-out for a parallel port should you have a need for that feature. Unfortunately, the parallel cable is not included and must be purchased separately (for about $10 shipped). A floppy connector is also present if you want to use that, and two USB headers are available if you wish to attach a flash card reader. One small issue that we had with the BIOS is that it was the only unit to improperly identify our RAM as 2.5-2-2-5 instead of 2-2-2-5. We could manually set it to the appropriate timings, but when selecting SPD, CAS latency was set to 2.5.
Unlike many of the other systems, there really aren't any extras added to the Shuttle system. The only noteworthy feature that is not standard with other SFFs is the inclusion of a 250W power supply, but even that is becoming relatively common with the newer models. The SB61G2 is a true barebones PC and you have to add your own components. If you want TV/FM tuner support, you can add that, or you can add wireless networking or whatever other features you might like. Naturally, you're a bit more limited in what you can add compared to a desktop system, but that goes for all SFFs. What Shuttle does offer, however, is a well designed system that is easy to work with, and you can also find complete XPC systems for sale at many retail outlets. The lack of extras does help bring the price down a bit, but if you were to try and match the features of, for example, the Aopen you would end up paying quite a bit more for the Shuttle unit.
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CrystalBay - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
Hi, How about the dual Opteron Iwill, that keeps flashing on the right.skunklet - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
there is an ideq with an embedded c3 proc that i would love to see a review of.gerf - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
I'd been looking at that Biostar SFF, as its specs are better than the equivalent Shuttle version, and is much cheaper. And now you drop a great review for it! I think that both I and my brother are going to use it for our new systems. Thank you for the kickarse review!JarredWalton - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
#6 - fixed, along with a few other things I noticed. If anyone sees anything else, feel free to drop me a line.#7/#8 - both of those are on the list of S939 systems we have coming for review. (We haven't received the PCIe one yet, but it should arrive sometime soon.) Unfortunately, most of the "high end" SFFs that we currently have are S775 for whatever reason. I think we have eight 775 units and only three 939 right now. I'd really like to see additional S754 units as well, since Sempron is moving in that direction.
I think one of the reasons that we're seeing more Intel SFFs is due to the chipset support. 865G is really almost the same price as 865PE, so the integrated graphics are "free". They're not good for gaming, but for most other tasks they work well. The only AMD platform chipsets with IGP are currently the outdated VIA K8M800 and the SiS stuff, although there are some newer offerings.
In case any of you aren't aware of this, we really can't afford to simply go out and purchase every item that we want to review. Since the reviews are basically "free" advertising (although if a unit has serious problems, it may not be good), the manufacturers have to send us the parts. In case any manufacturers are reading this, get in touch with us and we'll be happy to review any of your SFFs that you send our way! There are quite a few manufacturers that aren't currently represented.
Phantronius - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
Im hoping the SN25P turns out to be reliable unlike the SN95G.That and the way the PCI-E cards are facing the opposite direction makes me wonder about heat with both slots taken up. Hrmm....
REMF - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
AT - don't even consider doing your high-end round up until you have the new nForce4 P-series Shuttle due to be released at the end of the month.i would also like to see the nForce3 G5-Series Shuttle compared against it, and other high-end SFF chassis'. :D
AtaStrumf - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
WAU, that is one massive review! Good work guys.Just one typo to point out on page 8:
The iDEQ doesn't include any notable extras **included**, but it does have all of the high quality standard features that we like.
There was one more "it" that shoud have been "if", but I forgot where it was. Sorry :-)
I thought this article would include a MAC mini, but I guess that will be a separate article altogether.
If I may, I would suggest you only focus on SFF systems which stand out in a positive way and stay clear of the ones that don't. Just seems like a lot of pointless work.
MIDIman - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
Been waiting for anand's SFF reviews. Looking forward to the A64-939 / Intel 775 review that I'm sure will be next.arswihart - Note that the SB61G2V3 is Shuttle's latest socket 478, Intel-based system. All of their newer products are socket 775 which will be in a later review. However, I think there are plenty on the AMD side that could've been covered instead that are socket 754...the SN85G4V3 ain't too shabby.
quidpro - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
Absolutely no way that 7 bright blue leds in the Aopen (which only get brighter) should be considered acceptable or "minor" for an entertainment system, in my opinion. My shuttle has only two lights and I've had to cover them up with electrical tape with a small pinhole in order to cut down on the extremely distracting glare coming from it while watching a movie...the orange HD led flashes (as it should) which is even more distracting...arswihart - Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - link
what the hell were they thinking when they chose to review this obsolete Shuttle system?