System Summaries

Taking the complete system recommendations, what sort of damage to your wallet are we talking about? First, let's make it clear that these are systems that we would want - we put together all the parts without any consideration of meeting a specific budget. For the High-End setup, we threw out almost all restraints and picked out the parts that we all lust after when we're not busy reviewing other hardware. The Mid-Range was built by making some sensible downgrades to keep the price in check, but it should still pack quite a punch. You can also find a middle ground on many of the parts, so if the High-End is too expensive, but the Mid-Range just isn't powerful enough, going with a few parts from each range is definitely an option. As far as the AMD vs. Intel debate goes, we prefer the AMD setup right now, but dual core processors on Intel would get a few of us to reconsider. Let's start with the Mid-Range systems.

Mid-Range Summaries

Mid-Range AMD
Hardware Recommended Component Price
Processor Athlon 64 3200+ 90nm (Retail) - Winchester core $190
Motherboard Chaintech VNF4 Ultra $89
Memory 2x512MB OCZ Premier $84
Video Card Powercolor X800XL OEM $279
Hard Drive Seagate 250GB 7200.8 SATA $128
Optical Drive NEC 16X DVDR 3520A $48
Floppy Drive NEC; Sony; TEAC; Samsung; etc. $8
Case Antec SLK3000-B $56
Power Supply Antec SmartPower 2.0 400W $66
Display Hyundai Imagequest L90D+ 19" 8ms $350
Speakers Logitech Z-5300e 5.1 $135
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Internet Pro Desktop $26
Bottom Line $1459

Mid-Range Intel
Hardware Recommended Component Price
Processor Pentium 540J 3.2GHz 1MB (Retail) - Prescott core $213
Motherboard ASUS P5GD1 $110
Memory 2x512MB OCZ Premier $84
Video Card Powercolor X800XL OEM $279
Hard Drive Seagate 250GB 7200.8 SATA $128
Optical Drive NEC 16X DVDR 3520A $48
Floppy Drive NEC; Sony; TEAC; Samsung; etc. $8
Case Antec SLK3000-B $56
Power Supply Antec SmartPower 2.0 400W $66
Display Hyundai Imagequest L90D+ 19" 8ms $350
Speakers Logitech Z-5300e 5.1 $135
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Internet Pro Desktop $26
Bottom Line $1503

Some of you may be wondering why the price of our Mid-Range systems is suddenly $250 more than the last time that we looked at the segment. The answer lies mostly in the upgrades to the LCD and speakers, though overall, the system is simply more powerful. Besides, with our Budget systems ranging from $500 to $1000, we felt that it would be safe to bump up the Mid-Range choices. Feel free to refer to the last Budget Guide and mix and match parts to fit your needs. This is the system that we recommend as an all-around computer. It won't be the fastest in every category, but the difference between it and the High-End systems isn't going to be very noticeable for most users. Sure, you can drop back to a CRT and get cheaper speakers, go with a slightly smaller hard drive and a slower CPU and graphics card, etc. None of those are terrible decisions, and you can get quite a lot of computer for close to $1000. We hope it's clear that there is no specific system that will meet everyone's demands, but we've used all of the parts listed in this system, and every one is a reasonable purchase/upgrade.

High-End Summaries

High-End AMD
Hardware Recommended Component Price
Processor Athlon 64 4000+ 90nm (Retail) - San Diego core $507
Motherboard DFI LANPARTY UT SLI-DR $178
Memory 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum Rev 2 $188
Video Card 2 x 6800GT - eVGA; MSI; or XFX $690
Hard Drive Hitachi 7K250 400GB SATA $265
Optical Drive NEC 16X DVDR 3520A $48
Floppy Drive NEC; Sony; TEAC; Samsung; etc. $8
Case AeroCool Spiral Galaxies $108
Power Supply Enermax EG565P-VE FMA2.0 SLI 535W $97
Display Dell 2001FP 20" 16ms $530
Sound Card Chaintech AV-710 7.1 $27
Speakers Logitech Z-5500d 5.1 $245
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Internet Pro Desktop $26
Bottom Line $2917

High-End Intel
Hardware Recommended Component Price
Processor Pentium 650 3.4GHz 2MB (Retail) - Irwindale/Prescott 2M core $412
Motherboard MSI P4N Diamond $229
Memory 2x512MB Crucial PC-5300 Value $172
Video Card 2 x 6800GT - eVGA; MSI; or XFX $690
Hard Drive Hitachi 7K250 400GB SATA $265
Optical Drive NEC 16X DVDR 3520A $48
Floppy Drive NEC; Sony; TEAC; Samsung; etc. $8
Case AeroCool Spiral Galaxies $108
Power Supply Enermax EG565P-VE FMA2.0 SLI 535W $97
Display Dell 2001FP 20" 16ms $530
Sound Card Chaintech AV-710 7.1 $27
Speakers Logitech Z-5500d 5.1 $245
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Internet Pro Desktop $26
Bottom Line $2857

We still really want the option to throw a Pentium D into the Intel system, but we'll have to wait a little longer. The same goes for the Athlon X2 chips, though those are further off than the Pentium D. While the Intel system is actually cheaper than the AMD, despite the extremely expensive motherboard, it's really not a fair comparison. Both systems are SLI capable, but the AMD system will overclock better and quite a few benchmarks - especially games - will be dominated by the AMD platform. Besides the mentioned caveats, there isn't much that you can do to increase the power of the High-End systems without spending a lot more money. If you're looking for a good way to spend all of your tax returns and then some, at least computers are generally less harmful than other addictions.

Closing Thoughts

It's been a while since our last Guide, so we felt that it was best to cover a lot of options in a single article. Hopefully, you now have a better idea of what you want to spend your money on. Any questions, comments, feedback, corrections, or even complaints are welcome.

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  • Calin - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    Oh, and no micro ATX board is the flagship of any mainboard manufacturer. VIA is the only one that has a small mainboard as the flagship (the Mini ITX platform)
  • Calin - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    Hi Tujan
    I think I would like to see more Micro ATX mainboards too. But the idea is that micro ATX boards are not in the segment that typical reviewers like. They usually lack any kind of overclocking potential, their expansion possibilities are very restricted, and in some cases the performance is lacking compared to their big brothers (ATX). Also, they usually have 2 memory slots (unlike 3 to 4 of ATX), and the layout is much more cramped.
    Advantages? There could be a price advantage, size and maybe cooling.
  • JarredWalton - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    crimson117 - Hey, I gave plenty of options for more RAM. The fact is there are very few people that really need more than 1GB of RAM right now. If you need more than 1GB, I'd probably go for 2x1GB rather than 4x512MB, as that gives you the option of upgrading to 4x1GB in the future. Still, 1GB DIMMs are expensive, so 4x512 isn't a terrible choice. Just realize that unless you really need more than 1GB of RAM, you'll end up with slightly slower performance, as none of the boards we've tested will run with 1T command rates and maximum timings when using four DIMMs.
  • crimson117 - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    If you go for the AMD board, I'd recommend getting 4x512mb ram.
  • crimson117 - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    It is a crime to limit such great systems with a mere 2x512mb of ram.
  • KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    arswihart: All motherboard manufacturers do that.

    Kristopher
  • arswihart - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    that chaintech card is one of the best values in computer hardware, it only has a few downsides, including lack of eq control, no eax (who cares?), can't use microphone input when hi-quality mode (24-bit 96 khz) is enabled, and no spdif in (who needs it?). The Hi-quality 24-bit 96 khz 2-channel mode is what this card is all about, and it is a noticable improvement over onboard audio.

    Regarding the Catalina card, the sound quality of the DAC's on that card are obviously worse than the Chaintech.
  • berkut7 - Monday, May 23, 2005 - link

    My brother owns the Chaintech soundcard, and the drivers do not have an option that allows control of either treble, or more imortantly (he has the Logitech's Z-560 speakers.) Plus, the soundcard doesn't feature any EAX support, but I don't think EAX even does anything to make games sound better.
  • Tujan - Monday, May 23, 2005 - link

    Im a little aprehensive about putting money into Nvidia now.Since there are plenty of other vendors wich have AMD solutions.True Nvidia is the one to best. But it simply cant be an all Nvidia show.

    Your article is most of dealing with what 'cost is for given components.Think that the smarter buyer is purchasing,especially the first time buyer,based on fact of 'future proofing . In a performance based category. The smarter buyer,is buying performance,they are buying cheaper components on a performance upgrade path.

    An example for the AMD setup,a 1.8 Winchester,could be used instead.And too a video card such as an ATI x600pro PCI-e. This shaves about 120.00 off of that notch. A 300+ LCD ? Dont think so. However anyway,the fact is the 'smarter buyer,is taking the cheaper expense,to a platform wich is 'performance.

    I know Ive seen the benchmarks for the different Video cards.It isn't a bragging thing to me.My grandma uses DDRMemory on here video card,with a 400Mhz Ramdac,but she uses it on a PCI-e board.

    The range of performance/platform is a little different for an Intel platform,where processors run from Celerons ,to EM64 Prescotts.Then stop at where we are now,the 945,955/dual core 'boards.But the range of upgrade is there,and its based on performance.The smarter buyer is taking the least expense,for the platform with the longest upgrade range.

    First time buyers are the most luckiest because they do not have to take second chances with their money.

    Would like to see more m-atx performance platforms.Motherboards w/o onboard graphics for example.There are only a few.However this would probably be something 'performance should win,over 'cost analysis.

    Like IDE,IDE went to IDE33 all the way through to UDMA133. Only criteria was the prerequisite of the 40 pin connector on the motherboard.

    Limiting 'range on a 'cost effective analysis is anybodies choice.If there is such a choice.
  • arswihart - Monday, May 23, 2005 - link

    i hope you didn't dump your 8rda+, you should send it to epox I know they will fix your caps or give you a new board

    my caps started bulging as well, without any problems though, but I sent it to Epox anyways and i had another 8rda+ with high-quality caps just over a week after i sent it out. Thats great customer service.

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