Intel Q3'05 Roadmap: Conroe Appears, Speculation Ensues
by Kristopher Kubicki & Jarred Walton on August 8, 2005 3:13 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
Besides all the talk about the future architecture, there's not much to say about the desktop parts. Here's the current roadmap.
Intel Desktop Performance Roadmap | ||||
Processor | Core Name | Clock Speed | Socket | Launch Date |
Pentium 673 | Cedar Mill | 3.8 2MB | LGA 775 | 2H'06 |
Pentium 672 | Prescott 2M + VT | 3.8 2MB | LGA 775 | Q4'05 |
Pentium 663 | Cedar Mill | 3.6 2MB | LGA 775 | Q1'06 |
Pentium 662 | Prescott 2M + VT | 3.6 2MB | LGA 775 | Q4'05 |
Pentium 653 | Cedar Mill | 3.4 2MB | LGA 775 | Q1'06 |
Pentium 643 | Cedar Mill | 3.2 2MB | LGA 775 | Q1'06 |
Pentium >= 633 | Cedar Mill | 3.0 2MB | LGA 775 | Q2'06 |
Pentium 631 | Cedar Mill (no VT) | 3.0 2MB | LGA 775 | Q1'06 |
Pentium 571 | Prescott | 3.8 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
Pentium 561 | Prescott | 3.6 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
Pentium 551 | Prescott | 3.4 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
Pentium 541 | Prescott | 3.2 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
Pentium 531 | Prescott | 3.0 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
Pentium 521 | Prescott | 2.8 1MB | LGA 775 | Now |
The single core Pentiums remain unchanged from last month, with the exception of the 673 showing up at the top. Processor models ending with a 3 will use the new Cedar Mill core, the single core version of Presler. They will be based on 65nm process technology and will include all the same extra technologies we mentioned earlier. They will also have HyperThreading enabled, where the dual core Presler chips do not. There is also a potential lower end 633 model scheduled to be introduced in Q2'06, though it may or may not be released, likely depending on demand and yields.
One final update for the mainstream desktop market is that the EM64T enabled 5x1 Pentium chips are finally available. We've been talking about them for a few months, and retail availability was expected before now. They were probably held back to let inventory of the earlier versions clear out. You can see the new chips in our Pricing Engine.
Intel Desktop Value Roadmap | ||||
Processor | Core Name | Clock Speed | Socket | Launch Date |
Celeron D ??? | Cedar Mill 512K + EM64T | ??? | LGA 775 | 2H'06 |
Celeron D 355 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 3.33 256K | LGA 775 | Q4'05 |
Celeron D 351 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 3.2 256K | LGA 775 | Now |
Celeron D 346 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 3.06 256K | LGA 775 | Now/Soon |
Celeron D 341 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 2.93 256K | LGA 775 | Now/Soon |
Celeron D 336 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 2.8 256K | LGA 775 | Now/Soon |
Celeron D 331 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 2.66 256K | LGA 775 | Now/Soon |
Celeron D 326 | Prescott 256K + EM64T | 2.53 256K | LGA 775 | Now/Soon |
The Celeron picture is similar to the single core Pentium market. The EM64T enabled Celeron D chips are all starting to ship, after a month or two of waiting. Once again, you can check the current prices and availability on our Pricing Engine - at present the 351 is available, but we aren't picking up any of the slower "+1" parts. Current generation Celerons do not have VT, HT, or EIST support, but they do include XD (as have all Celeron D chips since the "J" variants started shipping almost a year ago).
Once Intel transitions to 65nm, a new version of the Celeron based off the Cedar Mill core will arrive. Clock speeds are not yet set, but we do know that it will continue to use a 533 MHz FSB, and it will increase the amount of L2 cache to 512K. That will make the chip relatively interesting, as the old Northwood core also included 512K of cache. Of course, the pipeline of Northwood was only 20 stages rather than 31, so clock for clock Northwood may still be faster. With a 65nm process, however, we expect the chips to be able to hit relatively high clock speeds, and architectural tweaks may help them to surpass Northwood performance. You're still looking at relatively equivalent performance for around $100 a CPU, which compares favorably to the higher end Northwood cores of the past.If you're in the market for a value system and you feel the need to purchase a 64-bit processor, we'd recommend that Intel buyers get a motherboard that uses the 945P or 945G chipsets. If you don't feel the support for dual core processors is important, we'd still recommend 915G/P as being the next best alternative. We would stay away from the 915GV/GL/PL chipsets as they have limitations that make them unattractive; not to mention the fact that those chipsets are almost EOL by now too. 915GV is like 915G, but no external graphics port is provided. 915GL has the same problem, but it only supports DDR memory instead of DDR or DDR2. Finally, 915PL supports an external X16 PCIe slot but eliminates DDR2 support and allows the use of 1 DIMM per memory channel, limiting you to a maximum of 2GB RAM. The bottom line is that the P or the G versions are what most mainstream users will desire. There's also the 955X chipset on the high end, which allows the use of up to 8GB of RAM. Those who really need the increased address space of a 64-bit OS will likely want the option to use more than 4GB of RAM as well.
Final Thoughts
Most of the major releases of 2005 have now occurred, and other than a speed bump or two, there's not much else awaiting Intel owners (at least in the desktop market) this year. 2006 has quite a bit more in store. We haven't covered the mobile section, but many expect to see the dual core Pentium M Yonah available for the desktop as well as mobile markets. Beyond that, we're all waiting for Intel's answer to the performance conundrums of the past year, where they officially lost the performance crown to AMD and haven't been able to regain it. The change to 65nm processes will likely have some advantages, but the real counterattack is going to come in the form of the next Intel architecture. We've given some speculation as to what may be present, but most of the real details are still closely guarded secrets.
For nearly 25 years Intel was the leader in PC processor technology and performance, and we have a suspicion that they will be pulling out all the stops to regain that lead in 2006. The fact that they still lead in profits and market share gives them a lot of resources they can apply to that goal, and we eagerly await additional details of the new architectures. AMD will naturally have their own new processors and architectures, but we know even less about K9 than we do about Conroe. Waiting is the hardest part, unfortunately.
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JarredWalton - Thursday, August 11, 2005 - link
Which is why we say speculatively that it can go either way. 4-wide or 3-wide? I'd say it's 50-50 which one Conroe will be. What you say about HyperThreading is a good reason to pursue 4-wide, though. Take the current NetBurst HTT hack and make it into a more useful SMT design (like in POWER5 I think). Go with fully independent queues, maybe even split up caches. There's not that much point in going from a 1MB cache to 2MB cache IMO. Imagine HTT with each threading core getting its own 1MB L2 (that would be as fast as the Prescott L2 rather than the slower Prescott-2M L2).Combined with more execution units, you could potentially increase performance of the core by 50% or more in multitasking scenarios without having to go all the way for four independent cores. I mean, current HTT doesn't add more than 5% to the die size. A second core doubles the die size. Take an in-between approach and go with a 15% increase to get a robust SMT solution, and you can get most of the benefits of SMP with far fewer transistors, right?
(Note: I am NOT a CPU designer, so maybe I'm totally wrong about what can and can't be done. The above sounds reasonable to me, however.) :)
snedzad - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
No, not at all. Next year won't produce massive turbulences in microprocessor market. We should better keep our eyes open for 2007, 'cause quad core is on the horizon.Thatguy97 - Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - link
and conroe changed the industry