Soltek QBIC 3901A-300P (cont'd)
Construction
From the outside, the build quality of the Soltek case is pretty good. The top and sides of the case are secured by three thumb screws, and once they are removed, you can pull off the aluminum cover. The front of the case is plastic with metal plates covering the doors in order to make everything blend together. The plastic hinges do feel rather cheap, and they definitely wouldn't stand up to a lot of abuse, but SFFs are only slightly more portable than ATX cases, so they should suffice. As with the Shuttle cases, removing the cover required some force, and it doesn't slide smoothly into place. The three-panel design of the Biostar is definitely an advantage in this area.Click on images to enlarge. |
Moving to the internals, we find the standard steel and plastic frame. Cables are pre-routed to help with assembly and air flow, and there were no sharp edges that we noticed. The included power supply is a 300W model and comes with ample connections, certainly meeting the requirements of the added space. Unfortunately, it isn't positioned very well, which we'll cover in the setup section.
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The heat sink and fan are somewhat less impressive than most of the other offerings. The HSF has a copper core, but the fins are made of aluminum. A 60mm fan provides cooling, but it isn't particularly quiet. The location of the CPU socket is also obscured by the power supply, and installing the HSF on the CPU is far more difficult than in any other SFF that we've yet encountered. Finally, the latching mechanism to secure the HSF is difficult to install, and it doesn't inspire confidence. It took many tries to get all the hooks lined up properly, and even then, closing the latch didn't seem very secure.
Setup
Assembling the 3901-300P starts off the same as all of the other cases: you remove the thumb screws followed by the cover. With the cover off, you can then take out the two screws securing the drive cage and pull that out, which gives you access to the HSF. Removing the HSF is a little tricky, as we mentioned before that the PSU blocks access, but that was the easy part.Click on images to enlarge. |
With the drive cage and HSF out of the way, installing the RAM and CPU is pretty simple. If you need to install an additional IDE cable for the hard drive or a SATA cable, now is the time to do so. You can also install the hard drive(s) into the drive cage at this point. The tricky part is getting the HSF back in place on the CPU. It takes some effort to even get it into place, and once you have it over the CPU, getting it properly secured can require several minutes or more. We probably spent at least ten minutes fooling around with the HSF trying to make sure that it was installed properly - this was by far the most frustrating time that we had with any HSF installation, surpassing that of the "bent" heat pipes on the e-bot.
The real problem is that the quick assembly instructions aren't particularly helpful. If you try to follow them, the assembly process is rather difficult. We found later on that it is best to simply remove the power supply and IcyQ fan while you install the CPU and RAM. The IcyQ fan will also need to be removed if you want to access the RAM slots after the system is assembled. While it takes a couple of minutes to unscrew the PSU and IcyQ, it ends up saving a lot of frustration when setting up the system. The CPU heat sink doesn't mount very easily even with the PSU out of the way, but you can see what you're doing and get the latches properly secured. You can see what the system looks like with the HSF installed and the PSU out of the way in the above picture. The cables of the PSU are long enough that you can move it out of the way without having to pull out all the power connections.
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Eventually, you can get everything properly installed, and then it's time to add the optical drive. Like other cases, it is usually easier to install the drive cage and then position the optical drive so that the front buttons line up. The screws can be installed from the sides of the case without any difficulty once the drive is positioned. We used our "oversized" CD-RW initially, and it was a tight fit - almost too tight, as getting the power cable installed was very difficult. We definitely recommend getting a new optical drive rather than using a hand-me-down, and you can see how much more room using our shorter LiteOn DVD gives.
Due to the time spent on the CPU/HSF issues, it required a bit more than 30 minutes to assemble the QBIC. The Installation Guide wasn't particularly helpful in this matter, and the internal layout was definitely problematic. In later testing, we removed the PSU and found that assembly time was cut down to a more reasonable 20 minutes or so. Soltek could definitely spend some more time reworking the design of the 3901. The good news is that once everything is assembled, you don't have to worry about it: 10 or 15 minutes on assembly followed by months of use without opening the case makes the assembly process a minor point. However, frequent upgraders will dislike the design. If there's a critical flaw with the 3901, it's the board and case layout - the socket location under the PSU is just really inconvenient for setting up the system, and novice system builders would be better off with any of the other units in the roundup.
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With the hardware installed, we move on to the BIOS screens. Most of the usual features are present, and the integrated SATA support of the chipset allowed us to use XP without any driver disk - note how the HDD shows up as IDE channel 2 master. The DRAM screen in the BIOS has most of the settings required for overclocking, but the tRP (RAS/Row Precharge) is not present in our screen shot. The latest BIOS changes the DRAM timings screen drastically, though Command Rate is still missing. We're not sure whether it was running with a 1T or 2T command rate, but we'd assume 2T. With the timings set to Auto (or default), our OCZ RAM with TCCD chips defaulted to 2.5-3-2-8, so we had to adjust those to 2-2-2-7 for optimal performance.
Installation of Windows XP SP2 - our standard for SFF systems - proceeded without any difficulty. After the initial setup was complete, we installed the VIA chipset drivers, audio drivers, LAN drivers, and the ATI graphics drivers. We rebooted once after installing the chipset drivers, as experience has taught us that this is usually a good idea. Then we installed the other drivers and rebooted one last time before commencing the benchmarking.
Noise, Heat and Performance
With the integrated memory controller, it's not too surprising that most of the benchmark results are similar. Comparing the Soltek with the closest competitor, the SN95G5, it often comes out on top, but rarely by more than a few percent. Temperatures for the case were pretty much in line with other units, and stability was very good overall. Overclocking changes the performance story quite a bit, however, so let's talk about that.For overclocking, the added RAM timing adjustments seem useful, but we still couldn't get a 1:1 overclock out of the system. We had to set the RAM to DDR333 when we used the maximum bus speed of 250 MHz or we would get crashes (or a straight out failure to POST). The CMOS clear jumper is on the rear left of the motherboard, next to the AGP slot, incidentally. We were glad to find that nothing obstructed access to the jumper, as we had to use it several times. In the end, we could get up to a 233 MHz bus with a 1:1 overclock, but we had to drop to DDR333 to get any further.
We ended up with 10X CPU and a 250 MHz CPU bus, giving a clock speed of 2.5 GHz with RAM running at DDR416 (CPU/12 ratio). While being forced to use a lower memory ratio isn't ideal, Athlon 64 chips aren't affected as much as other platforms and the maximum 250 MHz CPU bus was definitely a limiting factor. We managed to reach a slightly higher CPU overclock with the 12X multiplier, where we reached up to 2544 - the highest overclock that we've achieved with this particular 3800+ Newcastle on air cooling. Despite the difficulty of installing the HSF, it at least appears to cool well.
The one real problem with the Soltek, unfortunately, is the amount of noise that it makes. Most of the noise seems to come from the "IcyQ" cooling contraption, which is the vertical fan on the side of the case enclosed in a plastic shroud. We're not sure if the cooler is absolutely necessary, and it definitely adds to the noise levels. The shroud seems to act as something of a resonance chamber, only making matters worse. The interesting thing is that the Soltek was louder at idle than any of the other systems, but in stress testing, it didn't get much louder. The SN25P and 330P both had noise spikes that were louder than the 3901. We'd say that lower noise at idle with periodic spikes while the system is under load is preferable, but others might favor a constant level of white noise.
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JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
So I spoke too soon. After finishing this article, I just happend to come across http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">the new Aopen 939 SFF. That actually looks pretty promising, though the IGP isn't going to beat the ST20G5 that I can see (no DVI port). Time to put in a request for that unit....rqle - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
Price of these SFF are getting quite pricey lately. So much to the point when you add the cpu, hard drive, memory, video card, optical drive AND LCD it will comes very close to the price of a good high end laptop on a good day. Dell 17inch 9300 w/6800 on a VERY good sale day comes just over the price of these SFF 'system.' Big fan of these SFF, but prices should be a little bit more reasonable for me to buy again.JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
I agree with you on a lot of that, but a SFF with a 19" (or larger) LCD and a 6800GT/X800XL is pretty much going to stomp all over any similarly priced laptop. There's basically a $150 price premium to get a high-end SFF case, which is going to prevent many from buying. Still, some people buy $200 cases just because they look nice, so it's all a matter of taste.If you need portability, though, there are very few options other than getting a laptop. Personally, laptops and gaming are something I just don't care about. I'd get a cheap laptop for the office work I do and then keep a second system at home for any gaming. Some of course feel otherwise, but laptop keyboards and such just don't do it for me.
R3MF - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
love it.BigT383 - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
I have a first-generation SN95G5. I bought it thinking that since it's socket 939 I'd be able to upgrade to dual-core when it came out.Apparently this isn't the case, but I haven't seen anybody say they've tried it yet- so far there seem to be only rumors.
So I know this is a weird request but what I'd like to see right now is an article testing a CPU like the Athlon X2 4400+ on the three different versions of the SN95G5.
I can understand that X2s need a bios update, but the physical motherboard shouldn't be holding me back, right?
dcuccia - Thursday, August 18, 2005 - link
X2 support for the SN25P w/o USB2 issues is now available through a BIOS upgrade:http://www.shuttle.com/share/fae/hq/download/bios_...">http://www.shuttle.com/share/fae/hq/download/bios_...
JarredWalton - Thursday, August 18, 2005 - link
Thanks, I made a quick comment on the SN25P page to mention this.JarredWalton - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
I'm going to be dropping an X2 3800+ into the SN95G5v2 just to see what happens. I'll try to get some official word from Shuttle on the matter as well. I really have no idea what the SN95G5v1 will support. I think the main change between it and v2 was a switch from an 80mm fan to a 92mm fan.Zirconium - Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - link
I love the roundup articles. I find them to be the most useful because they allow you to hone in on what you are looking for quickly, and then you can go to other sites and check the reviews that are solely for the products you are looking for.That said, one thing I'm interested is the quality of the integrated graphics on these computers. I have an SK41G and I could tell the difference between the quality of the built-in graphics and the AIW Radeon 7500 that is currently in it. When the integrated graphics were hooked up to a TV (I tried two) you could notice bands moving up the TV.