Intel Motherboards: Something Wicked This Way Comes...
by Gary Key on October 12, 2005 2:13 PM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
"Not words, old man," said Mr. Dark. "Not words in books or words you say but real thoughts, real actions, quick thought, quick action, win the day."One of the more poignant quotes from Ray Bradbury's classic novel, "Something Wicked This Way Comes", fully explains the reasoning behind Gigabyte's desire to design, implement, and produce technologically innovative products quickly into a market saturated with cookie cutter designs and ideas.
It is this quick thought process along with quick action that has allowed Gigabyte to introduce several innovative products over the past year that include everything from the GA-8I945P dual graphics capable motherboard to the impressive single slot SLI based GV-3D1-68GT video card. While the true commercial success of these currently niche products are open for debate, the desire of the company to introduce these types of products is not.
Today, we will review the features, performance, and wickedly unique capabilities of the Gigabyte GA-8N SLI Quad Royal motherboard.
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How is all of this possible? The basic design feature stems from NVIDIA's decision to utilize a HyperTransport system to link the north and south bridge components of the nForce 4 SLI Intel Edition chipset. Gigabyte took this basic layout and engineered a solution to allow the removal of the Intel Edition south bridge (MCP) and insertion of the nForce 4 SLI chipset from their AMD product line. The AMD nForce 4 SLI component is a single-chip design that includes the core logic, networking, USB, and storage option functionality. By utilizing the latest core logic revisions of the nForce 4 SLI Intel (C19) and AMD (CK804) chipsets, this allowed Gigabyte to produce a fully featured board with four x8 PCI Express slots with the option to use two of these slots in full x16 mode. In this configuration, the other two x16 slots will behave as x1 capable slots. Each of the slots can be utilized by various PCI Express peripherals other than video cards.
The ability to have two x16 slots for video operation and the availability of the Gigabyte GV-3D1-68GT single slot SLI video card begs the question if this board is capable of Quad GPU SLI operation. The revision 2 GV-3D1-68GT video cards have the necessary SLI connectors and the GA-8N board has been designed for this purpose. However, Gigabyte's forward-thinking on this subject matter is tempered or more than likely dosed with a bucket of cold water by NVIDIA's current decision not to support quad GPU operations in their drivers. However, I have to commend Gigabyte's current design and thought process on single slot SLI capability, as the eventual migration to quad based SLI capable systems is inevitable just as multiple core designs are now taking over in the processor arena.
Let's see what else this board is capable of now and if it can win the day.
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DrMrLordX - Thursday, October 13, 2005 - link
Fine, I'll retract my statement, at least partially. I wasn't reading the statement carefully enough.Having looked into the newer 3D1-68GT, it seems to be a more solid product than the original 3D1 card based on 6600s. The original seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever.
Calin - Thursday, October 13, 2005 - link
They made it an Intel board assuming that the more "corporate-oriented" users prefer multiple monitors. I don't know about current performance, but in the recent past, Intel processors smoked the Athlon64 at things like Photoshop. And introduction of dual core processors at prices much lower than AMD's dual core could coax someone into buying such a board.I agree that most every normal person would be happy with four processors (powered by two cards), however I remember cases (in Linux) when OpenGL performace fell at half when enabling 2 monitor support on a single video card. This is driving a single monitor, not two. Driving two monitors, it fell even lower.
So, for every person that WANTS (not that it really really would need) four monitor output from four video cards, this looks like the best choice
trooper11 - Thursday, October 13, 2005 - link
I kind of doubt that since the cost in video equipment does not make this a low cost solution. if a company is willing to shell out for that, they would be willing to shell out for the best in workstation performance, which just happens to be the X2s
ElJefe - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
ever wonder what crack they were smoking though making it an Intel board?if you read about modders and gamers , almost 80%+ market share for DIY builders use AMD.
this board is a waste of technology.
still cool though.
Gary Key - Thursday, October 13, 2005 - link
Hi,The ability to produce this board was due to Nvidia's decision to use a HyperTransport link for the Intel SLI chipset due to the need to have an on-chip memory controller. While it would be feasible to complete a AMD version of the board, the engineering time and product cost would not be acceptable. While I will agree with everyone that the current AMD processor line up offers significantly more performance than Intels, the actual day to day real life experience with both systems is not readily apparent to most people. In fact, I have had people play on my FX55 machine and 840EE machine and nobody could decide clearly which system had the AMD64 in it without benchmarks. This was at both 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 resolutions. While I personally favor AMD for most performance oriented setups, there are some people that still want Intel. After not having an Intel based machine for the last two plus years I have to admit is not as bad as most people make it out to be.
Johnmcl7 - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
Whether you like it or not, the 3D1 was an innovative product, it's not childspplay to stuff both cores together and develop the motherboard support for it.John
Viper20220k - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
Yeah, what is up with that.. I would sure like to know also.Wesley Fink - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
The pictures of the 10-monitor display were supplied, but Gary did hook up every monitor we could, which was 8 if I recall, to test the outputs. To test 10, we needed two more Rev. 2 3D1 cards - our extra pair were Rev. 1 cards - which couldn't be here in time for a review.We did verify the ability of the individual 3D1 cards to do what Gigabyte claimed, so there is no reason at all to doubt the 10 claim. One of the key Engineers at Gigabyte works exclusively with AT and THG. All sites use some pictures and diagrams from press kits to save time, but we perform and report our own test results and analysis.
Yes, we dis ALL of the testing ourselves. Our review took longer because we did much more extensive testing of the board, including quite a bit of overclocking tests to make sure the nVidia dual-core issue we reported in our last Intel SLI review is now fixed in this chipset.
Gary spent countless hours sniffing out the good and the not so good on this board. We also found the OC capabilities of the shipping BIOS not too exciting, and we wanted to bring you the much improved OC results from the revised BIOS.
johnsonx - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
Wesley,I don't think most of your readers actually thought what the subject line of this thread implies. There are always a few who like to throw stones of course.
In my read of the THG article a few days ago, I found myself thinking that the 10-display shot was from Gigabyte, as they had no detail shots of the display control panel for 10 monitors; nine was the most they were able to get working.
Like you, I have little doubt that 10 displays will in fact work with this board, but the 9th and 10th would have to come from either a PCI card or a PCIe card running in a x1 slot. Even x1 PCIe is faster than crusty old PCI, but it's still hardly ideal. It'd be nice if 3D1 cards could be coaxed into working in x8 slots (so that'd be 4 PCIe lanes per core - still plenty), as then you could theoretically have 4 3D1 cards for 16(!) displays.
Thanks for the information on how you did the review testing.
Regards,
Dave
AmberClad - Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - link
April Fool's Day already?!