Clash of the Titans - TT Tai Chi vs. CM Stacker 830
by Joshua Buss on February 23, 2006 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
- Cases/Cooling/PSUs
Benchmark Comparisons
To get as meaningful a comparison as possible between the two cases, we installed the same set of hardware into each one; our new standard ATX test bed. Each system used the default fan configuration that was in the case. Note that our Stacker 830 came with four fans total, but now the product is being released with only the front, rear, and side fan – the top one would have to be added to achieve similar results.
These cases both tout themselves as being the best of the best in terms of thermal capabilities. So, how do they perform? Here's a culmination of the results of averaging the temperatures read over a period of half an hour of various components both at idle and load in our ATX test bed.
To call these two cases' performances a virtual tie is an understatement. They both do an excellent job at keeping temperatures to their absolute minimum. In fact, most of these numbers are all-time lows for our new hardware, suggesting that they simply aren't going to get any lower unless different heat sinks are used on the components themselves. The only differences that might be worth noting are that generally, the Stacker is doing a better job at keeping the motherboard components cooler (which isn't a surprise, considering the direct side fan) and the Thermaltake is exhausting warmer air out of the PSU, which also doesn't come as a surprise, considering its lack of a top-mounted fan. The Tai Chi is also cooling our SATA hard drive slightly better, which hints at the fact that the Thermaltake fans might simply be pushing more air, since otherwise the design of the cages is practically identical.
As for speculation of performance when these cases are loaded up with additional fans, one could safely expect the temperatures in both cases to scale similarly when adding side fans. The difference here to consider is that the Stacker can hold four 120mm fans, while the Tai Chi can only fit two. Even without a fan in the side at all, the Tai Chi nearly ties the 830 in the motherboard temperature arena, suggesting that it really is doing a better job at passively dissipating heat. This is a testament to the radiator-style design of the side panels, reassuring us that it isn't just a gimmick.
With the finding that the Tai Chi cools just as well as the Stacker 830 with half as many fans, one has to wonder if that means that the Thermaltake fans are making substantially more noise. To see if that's the case, we used our sound pressure level (SPL) meter and rated the system's noise subjectively on a scale from 1 to 10.
Surprisingly, the Tai Chi didn't register any louder than the Stacker 830 on our meter, which must be due to the Stacker's greater total number of fans. However, we did notice the sound of moving air ever-so-slightly more with the Tai Chi, but to be fair, both cases fall under the category of “extremely quiet”. With a simple fan controller and the right components, one could easily build a very, very, quiet computer inside either of these cases, and with watercooling and the right radiators, a fanless system would be entirely feasible.
To get as meaningful a comparison as possible between the two cases, we installed the same set of hardware into each one; our new standard ATX test bed. Each system used the default fan configuration that was in the case. Note that our Stacker 830 came with four fans total, but now the product is being released with only the front, rear, and side fan – the top one would have to be added to achieve similar results.
ATX Test Bed | |
DFI LanParty UT 915P-T12 Pentium 4 530 Prescott 3.0ghz OCZ 512MB DDR2 x 2 Thermaltake Golden Orb II Seagate 120gb SATA Hard Drive Chaintech GeForce 6600GT MSI DVD-CD/R/RW Combo drive MadDog MD-600SCPS PSU |
These cases both tout themselves as being the best of the best in terms of thermal capabilities. So, how do they perform? Here's a culmination of the results of averaging the temperatures read over a period of half an hour of various components both at idle and load in our ATX test bed.
To call these two cases' performances a virtual tie is an understatement. They both do an excellent job at keeping temperatures to their absolute minimum. In fact, most of these numbers are all-time lows for our new hardware, suggesting that they simply aren't going to get any lower unless different heat sinks are used on the components themselves. The only differences that might be worth noting are that generally, the Stacker is doing a better job at keeping the motherboard components cooler (which isn't a surprise, considering the direct side fan) and the Thermaltake is exhausting warmer air out of the PSU, which also doesn't come as a surprise, considering its lack of a top-mounted fan. The Tai Chi is also cooling our SATA hard drive slightly better, which hints at the fact that the Thermaltake fans might simply be pushing more air, since otherwise the design of the cages is practically identical.
As for speculation of performance when these cases are loaded up with additional fans, one could safely expect the temperatures in both cases to scale similarly when adding side fans. The difference here to consider is that the Stacker can hold four 120mm fans, while the Tai Chi can only fit two. Even without a fan in the side at all, the Tai Chi nearly ties the 830 in the motherboard temperature arena, suggesting that it really is doing a better job at passively dissipating heat. This is a testament to the radiator-style design of the side panels, reassuring us that it isn't just a gimmick.
With the finding that the Tai Chi cools just as well as the Stacker 830 with half as many fans, one has to wonder if that means that the Thermaltake fans are making substantially more noise. To see if that's the case, we used our sound pressure level (SPL) meter and rated the system's noise subjectively on a scale from 1 to 10.
Surprisingly, the Tai Chi didn't register any louder than the Stacker 830 on our meter, which must be due to the Stacker's greater total number of fans. However, we did notice the sound of moving air ever-so-slightly more with the Tai Chi, but to be fair, both cases fall under the category of “extremely quiet”. With a simple fan controller and the right components, one could easily build a very, very, quiet computer inside either of these cases, and with watercooling and the right radiators, a fanless system would be entirely feasible.
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JoshuaBuss - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
What about direct links to images? Does that work?http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cases/roundups...">http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cases/roundups...
Jojo7 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
No.JoshuaBuss - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
Try a refresh. Sometimes the image server gets a bit bogged down.latino666 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
Still can't get crap. I notice this problem also with the newegg article too. Man oh man did I want to see those pics.ATWindsor - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
The tai-chi has gigantic heat-sinks on the side, but to me they seem like little more then a gimmick. Almost nothing is in physical contact with them, and when they are only taking heat fom air, they seem to be virtually useless. I bet the diffrences if one had a "standard" side would be hardly measurable.The CM 830 surly is more ugly than the old model IMHO, It doesn't quit have that "large clean beast"-feeling anymore.
Cygni - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
It seems they were going for the look of the Zalman completly fanless case, but didnt bother to install the flush mount PSU or heatpipes that ran into the doors, haha. :p Oh well.Tamale - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
I'd call it a 'large techno beast' now ;)Howard - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
The 3/8" holes in the Tai Chi can easily be bored out with a twist drill bit (the regular ones) in a cordless drill. At least, they would be if the material is aluminum, and I think it is.JoshuaBuss - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
Yah, but it's still much easier when it can be taken apart and pieces can be worked on individually.Googer - Thursday, February 23, 2006 - link
Could you invert the motherboard on the CM Stacker by installing the tray on the left side in place of the usual right side? If you could possibly allow for better CPU cooling sine the processor would be sitting on the bottome getting plenty of cool air and allowing hot exhaust to escape upwards.