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MSI designed a very well laid out board with all major connections easily reached except for the eight-pin ATX power connector when a larger air or water cooling system is utilized. The MSI layout provides excellent clearance for cards and components and was easy to install in a mid-size ATX case. Although the board features a 3-phase voltage regulator power design it provided excellent stability, power regulation, and allowed for an impressive level of overclocking. The board provides 2 chassis, 1 CPU, and 1 Northbridge fan header, but as mentioned the BIOS does not allow temperature based fan control of the chassis headers.
The DIMM module slots are not color coordinated correctly for dual channel setup. If the user utilizes the two green or two purple memory slots then the board will reward you with single channel operation unless all four slots are utilized. Also note that if you only use two DIMMs, a correct dual channel setup will place the DIMMs in adjacent slots; this will generally create slightly higher RAM temperatures, though in practice this will only be a problem for more extreme overclocks. The memory modules are fairly easy to install with a full size video card placed in the first PCI Express x16 slot.
The black floppy drive and yellow IDE primary connectors are conveniently placed along the edge of the board. The white 24-pin ATX power connector and yellow secondary IDE connector are located in between the last memory module slot and the floppy and secondary IDE connectors respectively. This layout should work very well for most users.
The nForce4 SATA port connectors are color coded purple while being located along the board's edge and beneath the battery. The SATA port connectors did not present any connection issues when utilizing the board in SLI operation. The second system fan header is located to the right of the SATA ports and below the MSI Core Cell chipset and red labeled memory voltage switch block. The nForce4 SLI chipset (i.e. Southbridge) is passively cooled with a low rise heatsink and located in a position that does not interfere with the secondary PCI Express x16 or primary 32-bit PCI slot when occupied. The heatsink is attached to the Northbridge fan/heatsink via a heatpipe design.
The blue Silicon Image SATA ports are located below the BIOS chip and to the left of the nForce4 SATA connectors. The first system fan header is located to the left of the Silicon Image SATA ports followed by the chassis panel connectors. The yellow USB 3/4/5 headers are located along the edge of the board. The CMOS reset block is the red button to the left of the Southbridge. If you ever have occasion to clear the CMOS settings, you'll find the button to be far more convenient than the traditional jumper designs.
The board comes with (2) physical PCI Express x16 connectors, (2) PCI Express x1 connectors, (1) PCI Express x4 connector, and (2) 32-bit PCI 2.3 connectors. The layout of this design offers a good balance of expansion slots for a mainstream board. The first physical PCI Express x16 connector is color coded white and located uncomfortably close to the C51D Northbridge fan/heatsink unit. The two PCI Express x1 connectors are located next followed by the second white PCI Express x16 connector. The first 32-bit PCI connector is located next and followed by the yellow PCI Express x4 connector and second 32-bit PCI connector that is color coded orange.
We did not have any issues installing our NVIDIA 7900GTX video cards in the first and second x16 PCI Express slots. These dual slot configuration cards will physically render the first PCI Express x1 and 32-bit PCI slots useless. We did not have any issues utilizing these slots with video cards containing single slot cooling systems. Looking back at the slot configuration, we wish MSI would have dropped one of the PCI Express x1 slots for another 32-bit PCI slot, as the number of PCI expansion cards and their usefulness continues to surpass that of PCI-E x1 cards. This is a minor point really, but anyone looking to install two dual slot GPUs with a sound card and a TV tuner will need to opt for a PCI-E tuner card. Unfortunately, there are no PCI-E audio or HDTV solutions at present.
The Front Panel Audio connector and two green IEEE 1394A connectors are located along the edge of the board. If you use both internal Firewire headers, that means you have a total of three Firewire ports - probably more than most people will need, but certainly nothing to complain about. The black CD Audio In connector is located to the left of the first 32-bit PCI connector.
Returning to the CPU socket area, we find a limited amount of room for alternative cooling solutions. We utilized the stock AMD heat sink but also verified several aftermarket cooling systems such as the Thermaltake Big Typhoon and Zalman CNPS9500 would fit in this area during our tests. Due to the high rise fan/heatsink covering the NVIDIA C51D Northbridge chipset, the installation of larger air or water-cooling solutions will be an issue. We were able to install our Tuniq Tower 120 but it rubbed against the Northbridge fan/heatsink.
MSI places the eight-pin ATX12V auxiliary power connector at the top left of the CPU socket area - it works fine with the older four-pin ATX12v connectors as well, although this is not mentioned in the manual. This connector is located in an unusual position and could hamper airflow with cabling that crosses directly over the CPU heatsink/fan. We did not have any issues in our particular setup, but the choice of case and HSF should be made carefully. There is also a four-pin molex connector located to the left of the ATX12V connector that must be utilized for dual card operation - one more cable to potentially route around the CPU area.
The rear panel contains the standard PS/2 mouse and keyboard, serial, parallel, and 4 USB ports. Located to the right of the serial port and below the parallel port is the IEEE 1394 port and S/PDIF Coaxial out port. Located next are the four USB 2.0 ports with the RJ-45 LAN ports on top. The audio panel is located to the right of these ports and consists of 5 ports that can be configured for 2, 4, 5.1, and 7.1 channel audio connections. The S/PDIF Optical (TOS Link) out port is located to the right of the pink MIC port.
MSI designed a very well laid out board with all major connections easily reached except for the eight-pin ATX power connector when a larger air or water cooling system is utilized. The MSI layout provides excellent clearance for cards and components and was easy to install in a mid-size ATX case. Although the board features a 3-phase voltage regulator power design it provided excellent stability, power regulation, and allowed for an impressive level of overclocking. The board provides 2 chassis, 1 CPU, and 1 Northbridge fan header, but as mentioned the BIOS does not allow temperature based fan control of the chassis headers.
The DIMM module slots are not color coordinated correctly for dual channel setup. If the user utilizes the two green or two purple memory slots then the board will reward you with single channel operation unless all four slots are utilized. Also note that if you only use two DIMMs, a correct dual channel setup will place the DIMMs in adjacent slots; this will generally create slightly higher RAM temperatures, though in practice this will only be a problem for more extreme overclocks. The memory modules are fairly easy to install with a full size video card placed in the first PCI Express x16 slot.
The black floppy drive and yellow IDE primary connectors are conveniently placed along the edge of the board. The white 24-pin ATX power connector and yellow secondary IDE connector are located in between the last memory module slot and the floppy and secondary IDE connectors respectively. This layout should work very well for most users.
The nForce4 SATA port connectors are color coded purple while being located along the board's edge and beneath the battery. The SATA port connectors did not present any connection issues when utilizing the board in SLI operation. The second system fan header is located to the right of the SATA ports and below the MSI Core Cell chipset and red labeled memory voltage switch block. The nForce4 SLI chipset (i.e. Southbridge) is passively cooled with a low rise heatsink and located in a position that does not interfere with the secondary PCI Express x16 or primary 32-bit PCI slot when occupied. The heatsink is attached to the Northbridge fan/heatsink via a heatpipe design.
The blue Silicon Image SATA ports are located below the BIOS chip and to the left of the nForce4 SATA connectors. The first system fan header is located to the left of the Silicon Image SATA ports followed by the chassis panel connectors. The yellow USB 3/4/5 headers are located along the edge of the board. The CMOS reset block is the red button to the left of the Southbridge. If you ever have occasion to clear the CMOS settings, you'll find the button to be far more convenient than the traditional jumper designs.
The board comes with (2) physical PCI Express x16 connectors, (2) PCI Express x1 connectors, (1) PCI Express x4 connector, and (2) 32-bit PCI 2.3 connectors. The layout of this design offers a good balance of expansion slots for a mainstream board. The first physical PCI Express x16 connector is color coded white and located uncomfortably close to the C51D Northbridge fan/heatsink unit. The two PCI Express x1 connectors are located next followed by the second white PCI Express x16 connector. The first 32-bit PCI connector is located next and followed by the yellow PCI Express x4 connector and second 32-bit PCI connector that is color coded orange.
We did not have any issues installing our NVIDIA 7900GTX video cards in the first and second x16 PCI Express slots. These dual slot configuration cards will physically render the first PCI Express x1 and 32-bit PCI slots useless. We did not have any issues utilizing these slots with video cards containing single slot cooling systems. Looking back at the slot configuration, we wish MSI would have dropped one of the PCI Express x1 slots for another 32-bit PCI slot, as the number of PCI expansion cards and their usefulness continues to surpass that of PCI-E x1 cards. This is a minor point really, but anyone looking to install two dual slot GPUs with a sound card and a TV tuner will need to opt for a PCI-E tuner card. Unfortunately, there are no PCI-E audio or HDTV solutions at present.
The Front Panel Audio connector and two green IEEE 1394A connectors are located along the edge of the board. If you use both internal Firewire headers, that means you have a total of three Firewire ports - probably more than most people will need, but certainly nothing to complain about. The black CD Audio In connector is located to the left of the first 32-bit PCI connector.
Returning to the CPU socket area, we find a limited amount of room for alternative cooling solutions. We utilized the stock AMD heat sink but also verified several aftermarket cooling systems such as the Thermaltake Big Typhoon and Zalman CNPS9500 would fit in this area during our tests. Due to the high rise fan/heatsink covering the NVIDIA C51D Northbridge chipset, the installation of larger air or water-cooling solutions will be an issue. We were able to install our Tuniq Tower 120 but it rubbed against the Northbridge fan/heatsink.
MSI places the eight-pin ATX12V auxiliary power connector at the top left of the CPU socket area - it works fine with the older four-pin ATX12v connectors as well, although this is not mentioned in the manual. This connector is located in an unusual position and could hamper airflow with cabling that crosses directly over the CPU heatsink/fan. We did not have any issues in our particular setup, but the choice of case and HSF should be made carefully. There is also a four-pin molex connector located to the left of the ATX12V connector that must be utilized for dual card operation - one more cable to potentially route around the CPU area.
The rear panel contains the standard PS/2 mouse and keyboard, serial, parallel, and 4 USB ports. Located to the right of the serial port and below the parallel port is the IEEE 1394 port and S/PDIF Coaxial out port. Located next are the four USB 2.0 ports with the RJ-45 LAN ports on top. The audio panel is located to the right of these ports and consists of 5 ports that can be configured for 2, 4, 5.1, and 7.1 channel audio connections. The S/PDIF Optical (TOS Link) out port is located to the right of the pink MIC port.
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Odeen - Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - link
Hi,I wish you guys would post the EXACT BIOS (and, as necessary, jumper) settings you used to achieve your best overclocks, plus any issues you had with certain settings, etc. I'd love to see the actual notes from the lab, i.e. "Tried this clock skew value, crashed after X minutes."
While this wouldn't solve every overclocker's question, it would at least set us on the right path in optimizing our own systems, in terms of how certain values affect things.
I imagine you guys have a better understanding on what the BIOS settings do, as opposed to us everyday enthusiasts, who operate primarily on coincidences and conjectures. Especially in this age of hyper-tweakable motherboards with more and more components, it'd be really nice to know, for example, whether the hypertransport multiplier between the "NB" and the "SB" should match the chip-NB hypertransport multiplier, or whether that hypertransport bus speed is independent of HTT, and can be kept at 200/5X regardless of HTT value.
Lastly, have you tried the firewall drivers on this board, and does the firewall STILL cause bluescreens and corrupt downloads?
Gary Key - Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - link
We will need a new server to handle the notes sections for some of these boards. ;-)
We are probably heading in this direction shortly, especially for the enthusiast level boards. I will see what we can do on the next enthusiast level board with a table chart and short descriptions on how we arrived at the settings. I will say this, sometimes leaving most of the settings on Auto works best, the board/bios engineers are usually very smart about the default settings and then when you think all is okay, they hit you with a setting that should never be a default item.
We found on the MSI board, the NB-SB, SB-NB, and CPU-NB HT settings had to be synchronized or the board had stability issues. In fact, the CPU-NB default setting was at 800MHz, we had to change the option to manual, and then bump it up to 1000MHz to match the NB-SB and SB-NB HT settings at stock speeds. It does appear we had an average or below average board for the review, the latest retail sample that MSI pulled from their warehouse was able to post at 318HTT x9 with our test components.
If they are more details you would like to know, please comment or email me.
We tried the firewall with the 6.85 drivers. We could only recreate one particular situation that resulted in a corrupt download. It required the use of BitComet, downloading seven plus files (each over 200MB) concurrently, transferring the files to a media folder, and then unzipping a file while three others were still downloading. It only did it once but it did do it, is it NVIDIA or something else? I personally have not experienced any BSODs or corrupt downloads with the latest drivers, a clean load of XP, and staying away from the P2P software.
We have a new NVIDIA Business Platform system on its way so it should be interesting to see the tweaked ActiveArmor suite and driver updates that NVIDIA has been working on extensively over the last ninety days.
Gary Key - Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - link
Just not my week....Should read - If there are more details you would like to know, please comment or email me.
slashbinslashbash - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
PLEASE learn the difference between "discreet" and "discrete".JarredWalton - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
I don't know about you, but I like my audio solutions to be unobtrusive. Nothing worse than audio that gets in your face with static and stuff.... ;)mbhame - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
"Our initial impression of the MSI K8N Diamond Plus upon opening the box is that it has an extensive feature list, cluttered yet clean layout, heat-pipe cooling system, and that the overall quality of components utilized by MSI is very good."...how can a layout be 'cluttered yet clean'?
JarredWalton - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
Cluttered in that there is a LOT of stuff; clean in that it still works and there aren't any issues with connecting everything. It's an oxymoron, like "little giant". :)nullpointerus - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
Now I know how to describe my room.nullpointerus - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
Where are these PCIe 1x cards I've been hearing about? What exactly is available on PCIe besides video/network cards? I've heard that it's going to be a very long, slow transition to PCIe for sound cards due to noise/power issues with the spec.DigitalFreak - Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - link
See http://www.siig.com/productList.asp?pid=1013&c...">this page for examples. I do wish they made PCI-E sound cards though.