Socket 939 Fast DDR-400 vs. AM2 Fast DDR-2

DDR has a somewhat narrow operating range. Mainstream DDR might extend from DDR400 to perhaps DDR433. The very best, and most expensive, DDR might extend from DDR400 to a bit over DDR600. The useful range of fast DDR is even less because as the timings increase for higher speed the bandwidth starts to fall. Therefore top bandwidth with many of the top DDR products peaks somewhere in the DDR500 to DDR550 range and bandwidth normally drops as we move higher in frequency at poorer timings.

While ratios can be used with lower performing memory, the main purpose of ratios is to offset the performance limitations of cheaper memory so the user can enjoy the increased performance of overclocked processor without having to similarly invest in expensive memory capable of 1:1 memory overclocking. The point is that we will not be investigating memory ratios on DDR memory, since they are not generally used to increase memory bandwidth and performance.

DDR2 is a different animal when it comes to ratios. As DDR2 matured, memory makers and processor manufacturers have sanctioned higher and higher speed grades of DDR2 that are achieved with memory ratios. Users select and use higher rated DDR2 products to increase memory performance. On the Intel platform there was theoretically a price to pay since the memory controller was on the chipset.. This meant 1:1 DDR2 memory is theoretically top performance without compromise, while other speeds had some degrading from maximum performance due to the overhead of the FSB ratios.

AMD uses HyperTransport, which means there is no FSB. All memory speeds should theoretically perform as if they were 1:1 on HT. This simply means additional DDR2 speeds should carry no penalty at all. A user can choose DDR2-400, DDR2-533, DDR2-667, DDR2-800, DDR2-1066, and other DDR2 speeds based on performance needs and their budget, as there is no one speed which is best in a HyperTransport design.

For all of these reasons, performance of AM2 was benchmarked at DDR2-400, DDR2-533, DDR2-667, and DDR2-800. Due to limitations of current AM2 motherboards in that no timings faster than 3 are available for memory, all 4 speeds were evaluated at 3-3-3 memory timings. This is a fast memory timing for DDR2 at any of those speeds, as the fastest DDR timings we have tested at lower DDR2 speeds is 3-2-2. At DDR2-800, 3-3-3 are the fastest timings ever tested at this speed.

In addition, performance at DDR2-800 3-3-3, the fastest stock speed we could set on current AM2 boards with this memory, was compared to DDR performance at DDR400 2-2-2, which is generally the fastest stock speed on current Socket 939 motherboards. The performance difference is reported in %.



Benchmark results were very interesting. From a broad perspective, memory bandwidth and latency of DDR400 was matched by DDR2 at a speed of just over DDR2-533. Put another way, DDR2-533 provides equivalent bandwidth and latency to DDR400 on this 4th spin of AM2. DDR2-667 provided a bit better performance, and DDR2-800 3-3-3 provided a 12% improvement (lower number) in Latency over DDR400 and a 13.3% to 28.6% improvement in bandwidth depending on the memory benchmark used. It is interesting that memory writes enjoyed the biggest bandwidth boost.

Unfortunately, the added memory bandwidth did not translate into the kinds of increases in real-world gaming performance that many might expect. Gaming Performance at DDR2-800 3-3-3 at the same CPU speed increased 1% to 6.7% in our tests - with all except Call of Duty 2 in the 1% to 4% range. Call of Duty 1.2 was used in these tests, which supports dual processors, and test results did not follow the same expected scaling of other benchmarks. For this reason, the Call of Duty 2 results are considered suspect until we have more experience with Revision 1.2.

Since increased memory bandwidth did not translate into similar increases in gaming performance we can only conclude that this iteration of AM2 is not particularly memory starved - a result that was really expected. This does open the door for future upgrades and revisions of AM2 that might make better use of the available memory bandwidth with fast DDR2 memory.

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  • peternelson - Saturday, April 15, 2006 - link

    No I don't work for VIA or Transmeta but I do work in the IT Industry ;-)

    Efficeon chips were used in Orion Multisystems DT-12 and DS-96 cluster in a box computers and some notebooks.

    Whilst they have low power, they do lack performance for some applications compared to the latest chips. But using VLIW based code-morphing they do indeed run x86 code.

    Just call it a "good idea" rather than "unique" ;-)
  • Bladen - Friday, April 14, 2006 - link

    Although DDR2 667 at 3-3-3 doesn't seem that common, all I can find is DDR2 667 4-4-4 or 5-5-5. Here in Australia anyway.

    Maybe when AM2 is released a rehash article featuring the higher latencies is in order.
  • Gary Key - Saturday, April 15, 2006 - link

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    Although DDR2 667 at 3-3-3 doesn't seem that common, all I can find is DDR2 667 4-4-4 or 5-5-5. Here in Australia anyway.


    In our recent experiences with Infineon based DDR2-667 modules rated at 4-4-4, the majority of these modules will run at DDR2-667 with 3-3-3 settings with a voltage setting around 2.2V. Your mileage will vary based upon supplier but going with one of the more performance oriented providers will usually result in the better timings.

    We fully expect a wave of higher performance DDR2 modules to be launched in conjunction with the AM2 product. The majority of these new modules settling in around the DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 levels or above as we recently witnessed in our DDR2-1000 article -http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=273...">DDR2-1000 goes Higher.....
  • AnandThenMan - Friday, April 14, 2006 - link

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    This may change in the future, but for now the move to AM2 and DDR2 memory looks like it will yield far too little in performance improvements to keep AMD competitive in the upcoming marketplace.


    It will be interesting to come back to this statement after AM2 and Conroe are out in the wild to see how accurate it was.

    Interesting article, but nothing very surprising to me. The Athlon64 core is pretty much at its computational limit at a given clock, feeding it with more memory bandwidth does little. Which means that early adopters of the AM2 platform will get 939 performance with an updgrade path, which is not too shabby.

    Conroe better live up to expectations though...
  • Wesley Fink - Saturday, April 15, 2006 - link

    It would be a very pleasant surprise if AMD has us all in the dark and launches a Conroe competitive part or a Conroe-killer. Competition is good for buyers, especially when performance is very close. The close performance results in lower prices, as we are now seeing in the ATI/nVidia video cards from the most recent generation.

    However, we have to evaluate things with the best information we have available on time to Fab, launch dates, and the available revs that have been provided to AMD partners to design their companion products for the AM2 launch. There is always room for an unexpected surprise, but it looks less likely the closer we get to 6/6/06.
  • Viditor - Saturday, April 15, 2006 - link

    I have no doubt that AM2 is a very weak upgrade...management at AMD said as much in their recent conference call.
    The only critique I have would be of the line
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    the move to AM2 and DDR2 memory looks like it will yield far too little in performance improvements to keep AMD competitive in the upcoming marketplace

    You should have added the word "desktop" before marketplace as the server marketplace should still be solidly AMD, and we have yet to see what will happen in the mobile space...JMHO
  • Wesley Fink - Saturday, April 15, 2006 - link

    A very fair comment. I added the "desktop" qualifier since it makes sense.

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