Overclocking

Our previous experiences with overclocking Foxconn motherboards have been disappointing at best, and we have taken Foxconn to task over the matter. Have things improved with their latest and easiest offering? Take a look at the results below.

Foxconn C51-XEM2AA
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 - 4800+ (AM2)
Chipset: nForce 590SLI
CPU Voltage: 1.600V (1.300V default)
Memory Settings: 5-5-5-15 2T 12x Multiplier
3-3-3-9 1T 9x Multiplier
DDR2 Results: 12 x 256HTT = DDR2 1024
9 x 320HTT = DDR2 640
HT Multiplier: 5x below 300HTT, 4x above 300HTT
Memory Voltage: 2.2V
Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
HT Voltage: 1.35V
Cooling: Zalman CNPS9500 AM2
Power Supply: OCZ GamexStream 700W
Maximum CPU OverClock: 256HTT x 12 (3072MHz) +28%
Maximum FSB OverClock: 320HTT x 9 (2880MHz) +60%
 

We wouldn't worry too much about maximum CPU clock attained, as that will vary from CPU to CPU, and cooling solutions and other factors come into play. Motherboard quality will also affect overclocking, but other results we've seen from around the web generally support our experience with this Foxconn board. We were able to run at a maximum HyperTransport bus speed of 320 MHz without difficulties, though it did require some adjustment of the chipset voltages. The active cooling of our Northbridge definitely helped matters, however, as we experienced periodic instability above 260 MHz without the extra fan.


Active cooling requirements aside (yes, we realize that the above isn't an ideal mechanism for mounting a fan), a 320 MHz HTT bus with a 4X HyperTransport multiplier is a stellar result in comparison to previous Foxconn boards. True, most AM2 motherboards are easily pulling 300 MHz, but at least we don't have to make any apologies for Foxconn this time. The BIOS supports bus frequencies up to 500 MHz, but it would probably take a lot more than just an extra fan to reach any of them with stability. If you're looking for the absolute best overclocking AM2 motherboard, Foxconn still falls behind a few other offerings (maximum theoretical HTT setting notwithstanding), but for more typical overclocking the 320 MHz bus speed achieved should be more than sufficient. Just get a CPU that supports at least a 10X multiplier and you will almost certainly hit the limits of your processor before you are able to max out the Foxconn motherboard.

Memory Stress Testing

The wide range of voltage controls for most of the critical components help users to get the most out of overclocking attempts as well as memory modules. Most DDR2-800 memory is rated at conservative 5-5-5-15 timings, but that's also assuming you only run with the default 1.8 V. We have found in our DDR2 testing that many modules are easily able to run 4-4-4-12 timings at 2.0 V, and the Corsair modules we are testing with (rated at 5-5-5-18 DDR2-1066) are generally able to run with 3-3-3-9 timings with approximately 2.2 V. This Foxconn board supports all the necessary voltages to get the most out of DDR2 memory, and we were able to match the results of most other AM2 motherboards when it came to memory timings.

Foxconn C51-XEM2AA
Stable DDR2-800 Timings - 2 DIMMs
(2/4 slots populated - 1 Dual-Channel Bank)
Clock Speed: 200MHz
Timing Mode: 800MHz - Default
CAS Latency: 3
RAS to CAS Delay: 3
RAS Precharge: 3
RAS Cycle Time: 9
Command Rate: 2T
Voltage: 2.1V

With two DIMMs installed, testing was completely stable at 3-3-3-9 2T timings at DDR2-800. We could also run 3-3-3-9 1T timings at DDR2-667, but performance was slightly better at DDR2 800 with the 2T command rate. The voltage required for complete stability was 2.1V, which is slightly lower than on other competing motherboards. We're not going to worry about an extra 0.05 V, as variability in memory modules could account for that margin of error, but the fine 0.0250V adjustment granularity that the Foxconn board offers should allow you to tweak your RAM for optimal performance.

Foxconn C51-XEM2AA
Stable DDR2-800 Timings - 4 DIMMs
(4/4 slots populated - 2 Dual-Channel Banks)
Clock Speed: 200MHz
Timing Mode: 800MHz - Default
CAS Latency: 3
RAS to CAS Delay: 4
RAS Precharge: 3
RAS Cycle Time: 10
Command Rate: 2T
Voltage: 2.2V

Installing four DIMMs stresses the memory subsystem further, and you can see that we had to drop the tRCD setting to 4 in order to get the system to run stably. The difference in performance between tRCD 3 and tRCD 4 is negligible, however, and our 3-4-3-10 2T results are similar to what many other AM2 motherboards are achieving with four DIMMs. (Changes to the tRAS setting have an even smaller effect on performance, and so far we have determined that a tRAS value of 9-14 is optimal with DDR2-800.) We also had to add another 0.100 V, but we're not too concerned about that, as this merely brings the Foxconn RAM voltage up to the level of most other AM2 motherboards.

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  • JarredWalton - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    Must be - I have a Canan Rebel EOS now, and I haven't come to grips with the manual yet. LOL
  • sprockkets - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    Rubycons I believe are Taiwaneese caps, but they had the proper formula for the electrolyte in them so they never "blew up", whereas others tried to copy the formula and got it wrong and did "blow up." I still have boards with them from the 2000-2002 time frame still working whereas the other boards with other caps are leaking all over and the boards failed.

    That is no longer an issue, but still, they are good.

    About those new connectors, anyone use a normal cable on them? I did on one, the MSI GF6150 board, and litterally had to crush the connector cable to get it out because it was not one of the new style ones. Anyone else have this happen to them?
  • JarredWalton - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    I haven't had a problem with any cables in the new style connector, but here's a shot of the GB cables:

    http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/r...">Gigabyte (Pre-Release) Accessories

    Basically, there's a small metal latch that you depress to allow the cable to disconnect. I've seen SATA connections that were so loose they could literally fall off with a slight bump, so the latch avoids that. If you have a cable with a really fat connector, it could cause problems, but all of the other SATA connectors I've seen are about the same, minus the metal latch.
  • Phiro - Thursday, June 22, 2006 - link

    On the first page matrix, you list the Gigabyte as having the Realtek 883, then from about then on, you switch to the 888. Which one is it?
  • Gary Key - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    The board has the ALC-888 but Gigabyte had planned on the ALC-883 in the beginning, unfortunately the first set of drivers we used incorrectly reported the chipset but after looking at the chip itself (magnifying glass) and running the latest drivers confirmed our sample had the ALC-888. Sorry we missed the update on the first chart.
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, June 22, 2006 - link

    It's ALC888, though that's about the same as 883. 888T would be the interesting option, as that adds some support for Skype and VoIP.
  • photoguy99 - Thursday, June 22, 2006 - link

    Why would anyone invest in AM2 now when we can see the price/performance shakeout of Conroe in 1 month?

    Maybe AM2 will come out as a good choice - If a 4800+ drops to $199 I can see getting on board.

    If anyone out there is jumping now for an AM2 I would honestly be interested in the logic behind it.

  • glennpratt - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    I just bought an AM2 3500 for $100. I doubt Conroe will be at that price point anytime soon and my budget isn't flexible, plus you can't get a geforce 6150 for intel (HTPC). So for $300 I have an excellent upgrade to my media center IMO. New Case, A64 3500, 1GB DDR2, gerforce 6150.

    I would see your point if I was shooting for the latest and greatest, but personally I never spend more then ~$100 for a component in my PC's (usually < $80). And in my experience things don't change too quickly in that price range. Regardless of hype.
  • photoguy99 - Friday, June 23, 2006 - link

    That makes sense Glen, good luck with your new system.
  • Mant - Thursday, June 22, 2006 - link

    This is off topic...does anyone know where can I buy one of those cool new copper heatpipe coolers that are on these boards to replace the Turbo-charged-extreme-jet-turbine fan on my 939 motherboard? I'm dying to retire that POS and this would be just the thing to replace it!

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