Corsair Dominator PC2-10000: Fastest DDR2
by Wesley Fink on January 31, 2007 2:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Corsair Dominator PC2-10000 has the highest speed rating of any production DDR2 memory. Rated at a jaw dropping DDR2-1250 (PC2-10000) this Dominator meets and actually exceeds its rated specifications. Corsair specifies 5-5-5-18 at DDR2-1250 at 2.4V. Our benchmarking found the Dominator 10000 to be stable at 5-4-4-12 timings at 2.4V at DDR2-1250. There is even more good news in the fact that Corsair Dominator 10000 reaches speeds of DDR2-1315 at rated timings. This matches the highest speed ever achieved in benchmarking DDR2 memory. These facts alone definitely qualify Corsair Dominator XMS2-10000 as a very desirable memory.
There is more to this story, however. To reach these performance levels you will need to pair the Corsair Dominator 10000 with an NVIDIA 680i motherboard. You cannot achieve this performance using an Intel 975X chipset motherboard. You may be able to perform nearly as well on recent Intel P965 chipset motherboards, but that is still open to verification. In limited testing we did confirm that DDR2-1250 can be achieved on the ASUS Commando P965 motherboard, but we did not explore the highest overclock on that platform. We will be doing more with the Commando board in the near future.
There are two other top enthusiast memories - OCZ Flex XLC-9200 and Corsair Dominator PC2-8888 - that also perform very well in this same configuration. Neither memory is rated at a speed as high as Dominator 10000, but the fact is that both memories perform very well at DDR2-1250 and also reach to DDR2-1300 and DDR2-1315 respectfully on the same 680i platform. They are also both lower latency memories than PC2-10000, which means in the 1066 to 1200 range they are a bit faster than Dominator 10000.
However, at the most important DDR2-800 speed all three memories deliver 3-3-3-9 timings at 2.2V. In fact, while Dominator 10000 may be considered a higher latency memory than Dominator 8888, both these memories behave at extremely low latencies to about DDR2-1066. At that point Dominator 10000 is slightly slower and you will find at DDR2-1100 and higher you must use CAS 5 with 10000 while CAS 4 is still an option with Dominator 8888 and OCZ Flex.
In the final analysis Corsair Dominator 10000 exceeds its specs handily and performs as promised when paired with the right motherboard. If your goal is to buy the highest speed rated memory you can buy the Corsair Dominator PC2-10000 is the right choice. However, if we were doing the choosing we would opt for Corsair Dominator PC2-8888 or OCZ Flex XLC-9200. Both are rated at lower speeds, but both perform just as well or better than Dominator 10000 on the NVIDIA 680i. Both also perform much better than the Dominator 10000 on the 975X-based ASUS P5W-DH, with the OCZ Flex XLC-9200 reaching the highest speed on that platform.
There is also the reality that Core 2 Duo and AM2 really don't need the highest memory speeds to perform best. What they need is low latency DDR2-800 or possibly 4-4-3 DDR2-1067 to get the best performance possible. The unfortunate reality that we see again and again in memory tests is that the super high memory speeds are great for bragging rights and flexible overclocking, but they really don't do much for increasing actual real world performance on either the C2D or AM2 platforms.
Memory companies seem obsessed right now with higher and higher DDR2 memory speeds. There is definitely a market for these products, and Corsair, OCZ, Kingston, Patriot, Team, GeIL, Super Talent, and many other memory companies have delivered some remarkable and extremely innovative high-speed memory in recent months. We wish memory companies would become just as obsessed with producing a moderately priced 2 GB DDR2-800 kit that can perform day in and day out at 3-3-3 timings. It would be a bonus if it also overclocked to DDR2-1067 with 4-4-4 timings. With Vista performing best with 2GB of memory many will be upgrading memory as they move to the new OS. Whoever finally produces a reasonably-priced low latency DDR2-800 2GB kit will sell all they can produce.
Corsair Dominator PC2-10000 has the highest speed rating of any production DDR2 memory. Rated at a jaw dropping DDR2-1250 (PC2-10000) this Dominator meets and actually exceeds its rated specifications. Corsair specifies 5-5-5-18 at DDR2-1250 at 2.4V. Our benchmarking found the Dominator 10000 to be stable at 5-4-4-12 timings at 2.4V at DDR2-1250. There is even more good news in the fact that Corsair Dominator 10000 reaches speeds of DDR2-1315 at rated timings. This matches the highest speed ever achieved in benchmarking DDR2 memory. These facts alone definitely qualify Corsair Dominator XMS2-10000 as a very desirable memory.
There is more to this story, however. To reach these performance levels you will need to pair the Corsair Dominator 10000 with an NVIDIA 680i motherboard. You cannot achieve this performance using an Intel 975X chipset motherboard. You may be able to perform nearly as well on recent Intel P965 chipset motherboards, but that is still open to verification. In limited testing we did confirm that DDR2-1250 can be achieved on the ASUS Commando P965 motherboard, but we did not explore the highest overclock on that platform. We will be doing more with the Commando board in the near future.
There are two other top enthusiast memories - OCZ Flex XLC-9200 and Corsair Dominator PC2-8888 - that also perform very well in this same configuration. Neither memory is rated at a speed as high as Dominator 10000, but the fact is that both memories perform very well at DDR2-1250 and also reach to DDR2-1300 and DDR2-1315 respectfully on the same 680i platform. They are also both lower latency memories than PC2-10000, which means in the 1066 to 1200 range they are a bit faster than Dominator 10000.
However, at the most important DDR2-800 speed all three memories deliver 3-3-3-9 timings at 2.2V. In fact, while Dominator 10000 may be considered a higher latency memory than Dominator 8888, both these memories behave at extremely low latencies to about DDR2-1066. At that point Dominator 10000 is slightly slower and you will find at DDR2-1100 and higher you must use CAS 5 with 10000 while CAS 4 is still an option with Dominator 8888 and OCZ Flex.
In the final analysis Corsair Dominator 10000 exceeds its specs handily and performs as promised when paired with the right motherboard. If your goal is to buy the highest speed rated memory you can buy the Corsair Dominator PC2-10000 is the right choice. However, if we were doing the choosing we would opt for Corsair Dominator PC2-8888 or OCZ Flex XLC-9200. Both are rated at lower speeds, but both perform just as well or better than Dominator 10000 on the NVIDIA 680i. Both also perform much better than the Dominator 10000 on the 975X-based ASUS P5W-DH, with the OCZ Flex XLC-9200 reaching the highest speed on that platform.
There is also the reality that Core 2 Duo and AM2 really don't need the highest memory speeds to perform best. What they need is low latency DDR2-800 or possibly 4-4-3 DDR2-1067 to get the best performance possible. The unfortunate reality that we see again and again in memory tests is that the super high memory speeds are great for bragging rights and flexible overclocking, but they really don't do much for increasing actual real world performance on either the C2D or AM2 platforms.
Memory companies seem obsessed right now with higher and higher DDR2 memory speeds. There is definitely a market for these products, and Corsair, OCZ, Kingston, Patriot, Team, GeIL, Super Talent, and many other memory companies have delivered some remarkable and extremely innovative high-speed memory in recent months. We wish memory companies would become just as obsessed with producing a moderately priced 2 GB DDR2-800 kit that can perform day in and day out at 3-3-3 timings. It would be a bonus if it also overclocked to DDR2-1067 with 4-4-4 timings. With Vista performing best with 2GB of memory many will be upgrading memory as they move to the new OS. Whoever finally produces a reasonably-priced low latency DDR2-800 2GB kit will sell all they can produce.
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Wesley Fink - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
We make no attempt in our memory testing to max out the overclock on the CPU. In general we try to choose settings that will yield CPU speeds that are consisitent and relatively near stock speed - so they can be compared to other results.This CPU can OC with stability to 3.9 to 4.0 GHz as you saw in our Tuniq 120 Tower review. Running memory at high overclocks combined with high CPU overclcoks will definitely produce much higher benchmark numbers. However, the reality remains that the memory component alone contributes much less to high performance than CPU speed or the GPU used in benchmarking.
If you look closely at performance results for the 680i on p.4 you will see we included both 1:1 (same speed, really 1:2) and 5:4 linked ratio tests. The 5:4 has 20%+ higher buffered bandwidth at DDR2-1315 than the 1:1 measures at the same DDRS-1315, yet gaming performance is almost the same. Memory does make a difference in performance, but memory speed matters much less on C2D and AM2 than it did on previous processors.
sdsdv10 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
They why are companies working so hard to bring out the ultra-fast, ultra-expensive memory modules?
coldpower27 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
Bragging rights, and premium prices. They are also trying to prey on the misinformed who don't know any better.Sunrise089 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
Are you just posting to brag? That's definately a nice PC you have, but how does it compare to the one in the review? You have a much more overclocked processor AND a generation more GPU power.semo - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
the second page has "2x2048" in the title. is that the name of the product? wasn't the test done on 2x1024 kit whereas the title suggests a 4gb kit.Wesley Fink - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
If you check the chart on page 1 you will see Twin2x2048-10000C5DF is the Corsair Part Number for this 2GB kit with 2x1GB dimms and a Dominator Airflow fan. It has become common in the memory industry to sell memory in pairs rated by the capacity of the pair of dimms. We agree this can be confusing, but we used the Corsair Part Number to identify the modules since readers have asked us for that info in past reviews.semo - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
thanks Wesley, i had a feeling it was something like that. i'll pay more attention next time.Live - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
What if you put this in the DFI Lanparty UT ICFX3200-T2R/G does it beat the 680i?tuteja1986 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
Good memory but way too expensive. I would rather buy 8800GTX.tayhimself - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - link
Who buys this junk anyway?