DFI UT P35-T2R: Tweakers Rejoice!
by Rajinder Gill on October 18, 2007 2:00 PM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
Board Features
Our typical expectations were to see the standard orange or yellow LANParty color scheme, change is in the air and lime green is the flavor of the month. No matter the color scheme, the general layout of this board is nearly flawless.
A clean CPU socket area ensures compatibility with large air-coolers. We do recommend that users consider having enough space for an additional fan to provide airflow over the PWM and Northbridge heatsink, if they intend to use more than 1.6V on the Northbridge. The 8-pin power connector sits at the top left corner of the board, close to the PWM circuitry, with enough room to allow the use of bulkier connectors without any interference from surrounding components.
A more noteworthy subject is the 8-phase Digital PWM circuit, using the Volterra VT1115MF buck controller and associated fast-switching, high-bandwidth "Digital" MOSFETs. This solution has received mixed responses from overclockers, some feeling that Digital PWM does not have sufficient durability for an extreme overclocking motherboard. The current 8-phase design has managed to run overclocked quad-core CPUs completely Prime load stable at speeds of up to 4GHz. However, the jury is still out as to the effectiveness of the current Digital PWM design when quad-core CPUs are super-cooled. In the past, VCore settings over 1.6V and CPU speeds over 4GHz have not fared too well on lesser 6-phase implementations of DPWM, especially in high CPU load benchmarks.
DFI utilizes a heat pipe system that connects the PWM, P35, and ICH9R together to provide a cooling solution that works quite well, until you really push the board. At that point, additional cooling from active air or water solutions is required to properly cool these critical components. DFI engineered an extension joint (Transpiper) that attaches to the ICH9R heatsink to help carry heat within this system out of the chassis. There are numerous mounting configurations, with the most logical being to connect the highest heat producing area (the PWM heatsink) and have the Transpiper assembly exiting the PC case, so that heat is removed from the case, in theory reducing all internal component temperatures.
This system typically worked well with an air-cooling setup on the CPU and pushing the board to its limits on air. However, we did not notice any benefits during heavy overclocking sessions with water or cascade cooling. In fact, the hot air exiting the test case from our OCZ 1000W or 1200W power supplies seemed to have a reverse effect during extended overclocking sessions with the Transpiper located in front of the PSU fan as recommended by DFI. As such, DFI offers a version of this board without the Transpiper option for these users, or ones who want to save about $20.
That's not all; there is also a heat transfer plate that can connect from the CPU IHS to the PWM heatsink, sandwiched between the IHS and user CPU cooling solution. Our own thoughts are that users are best advised not to use this plate, as the temperature of both the PWM and CPU seem to suffer as a result. A closer look at the PWM heatsink mounting holes for this transfer plate shows that the width between the two holes is only a quarter of an inch offset from the mounting dimensions of the already available MIPS DFI 680i LT MOSFET waterblock (the key phrase here is "already available"). Had the holes on the PWM heatsink aligned with the MIPS 680i LT block without requiring a redesign ,or the removal of DFI's own PWM heatsink for functionality, current owners of the block and perspective water-cooling users could have been saved some time and perhaps money.
DFI once again adhered to their typically overclocking friendly layout, easily accessible CMOS battery, onboard power and reset switches featuring EZ CMOS clear, and of course the LED POST Code display. The floppy drive connector sits at the lower edge of the board to the right of the POST Code display. The six Intel ICH9R SATA ports are located at the lower right edge of the board, facing to the right making connector insertion a little awkward at times once the board is mounted in a case. There are also two JMicron JMB363 SATA ports situated above the Intel SATA ports.
The memory slot connectors are situated almost in line with the primary PCI Express connector; large graphics cards such as the 8800 GTX may have to be removed when swapping out memory modules. The 24-pin ATX connector is placed to the right of the slots and does not hinder the use of the IDE connector below it. There are six onboard fan headers, all logically placed in high heat production areas, with both BIOS and OS Smart Guardian fan control options.
The expansion slot layout is comprised of three PCI Express x16 slots (one x16, one x4, and one x1 slot), one PCI Express x1 slot, and three PCI slots. The supplied Bernstein Audio module features the Realtek ALC885 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC and has its dedicated connector placed between the PCI slots, rendering one of the PCI slots inactive if the module is used. There are three onboard USB connectors for an additional six USB ports, a connector for an external COM port, one IrDA connector, one CIR connector, and a connector for the second IEEE-1394 port.
The rear I/O options include six USB ports, an IEEE-1394 port, two Gigabit LAN ports with teaming options, and finally the standard PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
Our typical expectations were to see the standard orange or yellow LANParty color scheme, change is in the air and lime green is the flavor of the month. No matter the color scheme, the general layout of this board is nearly flawless.
A clean CPU socket area ensures compatibility with large air-coolers. We do recommend that users consider having enough space for an additional fan to provide airflow over the PWM and Northbridge heatsink, if they intend to use more than 1.6V on the Northbridge. The 8-pin power connector sits at the top left corner of the board, close to the PWM circuitry, with enough room to allow the use of bulkier connectors without any interference from surrounding components.
A more noteworthy subject is the 8-phase Digital PWM circuit, using the Volterra VT1115MF buck controller and associated fast-switching, high-bandwidth "Digital" MOSFETs. This solution has received mixed responses from overclockers, some feeling that Digital PWM does not have sufficient durability for an extreme overclocking motherboard. The current 8-phase design has managed to run overclocked quad-core CPUs completely Prime load stable at speeds of up to 4GHz. However, the jury is still out as to the effectiveness of the current Digital PWM design when quad-core CPUs are super-cooled. In the past, VCore settings over 1.6V and CPU speeds over 4GHz have not fared too well on lesser 6-phase implementations of DPWM, especially in high CPU load benchmarks.
DFI utilizes a heat pipe system that connects the PWM, P35, and ICH9R together to provide a cooling solution that works quite well, until you really push the board. At that point, additional cooling from active air or water solutions is required to properly cool these critical components. DFI engineered an extension joint (Transpiper) that attaches to the ICH9R heatsink to help carry heat within this system out of the chassis. There are numerous mounting configurations, with the most logical being to connect the highest heat producing area (the PWM heatsink) and have the Transpiper assembly exiting the PC case, so that heat is removed from the case, in theory reducing all internal component temperatures.
This system typically worked well with an air-cooling setup on the CPU and pushing the board to its limits on air. However, we did not notice any benefits during heavy overclocking sessions with water or cascade cooling. In fact, the hot air exiting the test case from our OCZ 1000W or 1200W power supplies seemed to have a reverse effect during extended overclocking sessions with the Transpiper located in front of the PSU fan as recommended by DFI. As such, DFI offers a version of this board without the Transpiper option for these users, or ones who want to save about $20.
That's not all; there is also a heat transfer plate that can connect from the CPU IHS to the PWM heatsink, sandwiched between the IHS and user CPU cooling solution. Our own thoughts are that users are best advised not to use this plate, as the temperature of both the PWM and CPU seem to suffer as a result. A closer look at the PWM heatsink mounting holes for this transfer plate shows that the width between the two holes is only a quarter of an inch offset from the mounting dimensions of the already available MIPS DFI 680i LT MOSFET waterblock (the key phrase here is "already available"). Had the holes on the PWM heatsink aligned with the MIPS 680i LT block without requiring a redesign ,or the removal of DFI's own PWM heatsink for functionality, current owners of the block and perspective water-cooling users could have been saved some time and perhaps money.
DFI once again adhered to their typically overclocking friendly layout, easily accessible CMOS battery, onboard power and reset switches featuring EZ CMOS clear, and of course the LED POST Code display. The floppy drive connector sits at the lower edge of the board to the right of the POST Code display. The six Intel ICH9R SATA ports are located at the lower right edge of the board, facing to the right making connector insertion a little awkward at times once the board is mounted in a case. There are also two JMicron JMB363 SATA ports situated above the Intel SATA ports.
The memory slot connectors are situated almost in line with the primary PCI Express connector; large graphics cards such as the 8800 GTX may have to be removed when swapping out memory modules. The 24-pin ATX connector is placed to the right of the slots and does not hinder the use of the IDE connector below it. There are six onboard fan headers, all logically placed in high heat production areas, with both BIOS and OS Smart Guardian fan control options.
The expansion slot layout is comprised of three PCI Express x16 slots (one x16, one x4, and one x1 slot), one PCI Express x1 slot, and three PCI slots. The supplied Bernstein Audio module features the Realtek ALC885 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC and has its dedicated connector placed between the PCI slots, rendering one of the PCI slots inactive if the module is used. There are three onboard USB connectors for an additional six USB ports, a connector for an external COM port, one IrDA connector, one CIR connector, and a connector for the second IEEE-1394 port.
The rear I/O options include six USB ports, an IEEE-1394 port, two Gigabit LAN ports with teaming options, and finally the standard PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
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Acanthus - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Although all of the tweaking options provided are nice, it literally does no better than Asus P5K Deluxe or the Gigabyte P35-DQ6.Furthermore with X38 boards on the way, im not seeing a whole lot of incentive for this $300 motherboard.
Just my $.02
retrospooty - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
This board has hit 672mhz FSB, far FAR higher than any other other board ever, including early samples of X38. Not likely to be matched until the DFI X38 comes out.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php...">http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php...
This link shows it at 666mhz, I cant find the 672mhz one at the moment, but its on the same forum, by the same guy with the same golden CPU.
cmdrdredd - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Not usable 24/7WHO CARES!?
retrospooty - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Well, it still goes alot higher than the others you mentioned, it is absolutely the best overclocking motherboard available. - that was what I responded too, obviously its not the one for you.Acanthus - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
That is from the DFI labs... with a beta board... on supercooling...and volt mods... on a dual core CPU that doesnt stress the PWMs...Anandtechs results even using phase dont approach those results.
retrospooty - Friday, October 19, 2007 - link
No, that is not from DFI labs, that is an independant dood, and CPU's that hit that high FSB are pretty rare.Whatever man, you can poo poo it all you want. It is the best OC mobo out there, and goes higher and takes it farther than any other. It may not be the one for you though.
Raja Gill - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
You need to remember that this board was compared at stock settings, not OC'ed, things change up top...;), not to mention we could not get the board to crash..regards
Raja
Acanthus - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Its the same chipset, its not going magically increase in a non-linear fashion.The P5K and DQ6 hit the same maximum overclock.
MadBoris - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
It makes sense that article takes a different approach, customers of this board or tweakers in general, will really appreciate the fine details.Personally, in the last ten years I have gotten to a place where I am very comfortable not pushing for the last 100 - 300 mhz. The meager tangible return is not worth all the extra voltage or potential stability issues that often come up later in the life of the HW due to creep, dust, aging paste, etc. I get a nice stress test capable OC, then back it up a notch. I won't win any 3dmark awards that way though but am very satisfied with stability when a new product stresses HW in ways not stressed before.
One thing for sure with this board, I wouldn't want to lose the CMOS, then have to remember all my settings after a year.
Nice board and good article, $300 is too much though for a MB for me. It's definitely elite.
retrospooty - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Its alot of reading, but that is because the DFI is alot of motherboard. I have had it since it was first released and loving every minute of it. I have a C2D 6750 running at 8x500 fsb for a sweet 4 ghz on water at DDR2 1000 4-4-4-10 timing, man is it sweet.There are sooooo many bios tweaks to get better performance, or stability at high overclock - its definitely not for beginners... worth every penny of the $300 I spent.