Super Flower Amazon 650W Power Supply
by Christoph Katzer on October 16, 2008 3:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Cases/Cooling/PSUs
Introduction
Today we're reviewing a new power supply from Super Flower, a company that has been producing power supplies predominantly for other companies, though they also sell PSUs under their own brand. Several years back their units were a lot more common and you could find them in online shops around the globe, but their presence has been fading. However, we have reviewed a few other brands that were built by Super Flower. Super Flower was one of the first companies to introduce fans larger than 120mm in power supplies and in fact they have several patents related to this. Besides power supplies the company also offers PC cases.
The Amazon series we are reviewing comes in six different wattages: 550W, 650W, 750W, 850W, 1000W, and 1200W. The specs of the models differ in their maximum combined power and in the potential output on the 12V4 and 12V5 rails on higher spec units. The 550W unit also omits the 12V5 and 12V6 rails.
The label shows a total of six 12V rails which is uncommon for a 650W power supply. Each of the rails is listed as 20A, except rails 12V4 and 12V5 are 30A. However, the total combined power of the 12V rails is only 624W, which you could exceed just by putting a maximum load on the two 30A rails. This raises the question of whether there's any reason to include additional rails, considering users will only be able to use a small fraction of the theoretical maximum load if they connect devices to each rail. This is in direct contrast to other companies that opt to use a single high amperage 12V rail. The 3.3V and 5V rails are in line with what we normally see, with a total combined power of 170W. Super Flower might want to fix the German spelling on the label, since hardly any of the words are spelled correctly. (Ed: The English grammar on the packaging could also use some work.)
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Choppedliver - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - link
Did I miss something or did the reviewer not tell us how much this thing costs and where you can get it?Christoph Katzer - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - link
"The only real question we have is pricing. We will have to wait until Super Flower begins shipping these units to get a price quote."In the time you wrote that totally unnecessary post you could have found it on the last page.
Choppedliver - Sunday, October 26, 2008 - link
Obviously I missed it, which is why I said "Did I miss something"And for your information dickwad, I looked on all the pages, just missed that last sentence. It is possible. I goofed. Don't be such a little bitch about it.
I thought pricing info would be on the first page where it says "Prices"... silly me, I thought that would be prices for this product reviewed, when in fact it's just revenue generating advertisements ( which I DID click on because I did THINK those were the prices for this product... your welcome. Send those few dollars to the JWAP Foundation. ( Journalists Who Aren't Pussies )
Let me rescend my apology. I read the article. Right below where it says
Date: October 16th, 2008
Topic: Cases/Cooling/PSUs
Manufacturer: Super Flower Inc.
Author: Christoph Katzer
It then says:
Prices
- TECHONWEB $122.91
- HP Small/Medium Business $29.89
- Dell $99.99
- Dell SMB $39.99
- HP Small/Medium Business $40.35
- Dell $99.99
Silly me, Im thinking this is a great deal! It doesnt say anywhere on this first page that this is a "not yet shipping" product.
Why would you? Its obvious that the advertisements are strategically placed to generate clicks through trickery.
Spacecomber - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
"Several years back their units were a lot more common and you could find them in online shops around the globe, but their presence has been fading. However, we have reviewed a few other brands that were built by Super Flower."For those whose memory isn't all that great, and who are too lazy to go back through the previous P/S reviews, could you remind us which other power supplies that have been reviewed were built by SuperFlower?
Christoph Katzer - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
Kingwin for example: http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.a...">http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.a...You can recognize other SuperFlowers by their distinctive heatsink design and the cable management with the special connectors. Some Topower builds have the same cm-connectors though, since it's actually their patent but until now only Tagan used them (afaik).
Souka - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
Only thing I see good about this PSU is the fan and resulting noise (lack of) from it.Voltages are too far out of alignment, and the ripple isn't great.
symbul - Monday, October 20, 2008 - link
You are KIDDING about the ripple, right? I mean, a max 7.87 mV (if accurate in the retail version) is a great spec. Even the 650W Antec Signature (which is the best 650W out there) can't do that...Spivonious - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
That 12V graph looks pretty shaky. What does that mean in terms of the voltage/power delivered?Spacecomber - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone had any insight on how to read that graph, too, since it looked to me like what I would assume to be rather "rippled", especially at full power.On another topic, with no production units available and therefore no firm pricing, this kind of preview is interesting, but it is not as helpful as a review of something that I can actually buy and therefore determine an actual value for. Certainly, we haven't run out of available power supplies to review at this point, have we?
HOOfan 1 - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - link
below 8mV of ripple...is extremely low. So low I am not sure I believe it.