Testing with 4xAA Enabled (Custom Demo)

Running with 4xAA is much more taxing on the cards. It is our opinion that AA in Far Cry 2 isn't highly necessary. The world is fairly low contrast, and with all the effects aliasing is not incredibly noticeable. It is present, of course, but AA isn't a necessity like it can be in other games. Especially at high resolution and small pixel sizes. At the very high end, or in working multi-GPU configurations, go ahead and turn on 4xAA. If you happen to be one of those gamers who really loves AA even when aliasing isn't terribly noticeable in a game, remember that 4xAA with Very High quality settings will generally perform about the same as Ultra High quality with no antialiasing. Of course, this is a trade off. We don't think it's worth it, but what looks good to one person doesn't always look good to another.

The minimum graphics requirement to run with Ultra High quality and 4xAA will be a GeForce 9800 GT or a Radeon HD 4830, but these cards will only get you barely playable framerates at 1024x768.

While the GeForce GTX 280 does regain it's lead over the Radeon HD 4870 1GB in this test, the AMD part still leads its competitors (the GTX 260 cards) at all playable resolutions. And once again, the 512MB part falls behind the GeForce GTX 260. The 512MB 4870 ran incredibly poorly at 2560x1600, though only the GTX 280 and SLI solutions remained playable.

Timedemo DX10 Ultra High 4xAA

The cheapest playable card at 1024x768 with these settings is the GeForce 9800 GT.

Timedemo DX10 Ultra High 4xAA

The cheapest playable card at 1280x1024 with these settings is the Radeon HD 4850.

Timedemo DX10 Ultra High 4xAA

The cheapest playable card at 1680x1050 with these settings is the GeForce GTX 260.

Timedemo DX10 Ultra High 4xAA

The cheapest playable card at 1920x1200 with these settings is the GeForce GTX 260.

Timedemo DX10 Ultra High 4xAA

The cheapest playable card at 2560x1600 with these settings is the GeForce GTX 280.

Testing with AnandTech's Custom Demo AMD Driver Caveats and Major Open Issues
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  • Ephebus - Monday, November 24, 2008 - link

    ATI drivers have always been messy, and not just video card drivers. I was unfortunate enough to purchase a motherboard with an ATI chipset, and installing the latest southbridge and RAID drivers from the Catalyst 8.11 suite (which are available as individual packages for motherboards with ATI chipsets) simply removed the option to uninstall the drivers from XP's control panel and also removed the SATA-AHCI support, so now I have to run my HD's in native IDE mode.

    ATI drivers are so pathetic that you have to install the SATA-AHCI drivers during OS installation and from DISKETTES (I haven't had a diskette drive for years). Most people above the total-mediocre-user-level resort to some registry patch to install AHCI drivers on an already installed OS (or because they don't have a diskette drive), which worked just fine for me, but the latest release messed that up too.

    Worst of all was the response I got from AMD's support, telling me to install the drivers from the motherboard's page (which are nothing but the southbridge drivers from a Catalyst release over 1 year old). Fanboys flame on (I used to be one too, since the K6-2), but this company should recognize their inability to develop drivers for their own products and either let someone else write them or go out of the business.
  • Slash3 - Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - link

    AHCI mode requires all vendors install AHCI drivers at the time of installation for XP. Intel, ATI, AMD or otherwise. Yes, you can slipstream them into an install CD if you're lucky, but XP by default requires the use of the A: diskette drive for controller drivers (needed to enable AHCI or RAID mode). Vista allows the use of USB devices for drivers, and is preconfigured with more out of the gate.
  • Ephebus - Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - link

    You forgot NVIDIA. Installers for their chipset drivers are able to install RAID and AHCI drivers on existing XP installations. My previous motherboard was a Foxconn board based on the nForce 560 SLI and I never needed to touch a diskette to get AHCI installed.
  • Ephebus - Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - link

    Small correction, it was the nForce 570 SLI based Foxconn N570SM2AA-8EKRS2H. AHCI support was integrated in the nForce installation. Never had a board with an Intel chipset, so I'll have to take your word for it (that AHCI drivers have to be installed from diskette during XP installation as with ATI boards).
  • binarydragons - Monday, November 24, 2008 - link

    I couldn't even estimate how long it takes to do these test and with people like me asking for more must get tiring.

    One configuration I would be intersted in would be SLI mode with one card dedicated to Physics.

    I found your article "NVIDIA Fall Driver Update (rel 180) and Other Treats" very intersting.
  • binarydragons - Monday, November 24, 2008 - link

    After posting the PhysX comment I have been doing some reading.

    I am not sure Nvidia PhysX will make a differnece on Far Cry 2.

    From what I can tell Far Cry 2 uses Havok physx which is cpu based.
  • Genx87 - Monday, November 24, 2008 - link

    It would be nice to know the platform's you were using. In the past I had a major stuttering issue with a 6800GT, Nforce 3 chipset drivers, and anything over the 67.xx series drivers. I could either run the 67 series drivers with the Nvidia IDE drivers. Or run the newest version of the graphics drivers with the generic microsoft IDE controller drivers.

    I am wondering if this is something similar?

    Secondly as a new frustrated owner of a 4850. I have since learned to uninstall the control center. What an absolute buggy POS that in my opinion appears to have the sole purpose to cause bsod or other driver related issues.
  • SiliconDoc - Saturday, November 29, 2008 - link

    Exactly, but that CCC isn't a problem either - of course.. just ask anyone - it's perfect, I guess we can only conclude it is not an ATI issue - and that leaves, well we won't say who that leaves... (sarcasm!)
    ( noone replied saying that because in the hype world, your comment does not exist - it's easier to pass right over and pretend it is never there - like you know the other driver issues that "never happen" with ATI. ) (dripping, oozing sarcasm)
    I guess if I was an absolute master tech like so many I wouldn't have ATI driver issues... if I could just be like the master geeks I'd be so happy with ATI.
  • kr7400 - Tuesday, December 2, 2008 - link



    Can you please fucking die? Preferably by getting crushed to death in a garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped out of their sockets. *beep* bitch


    I would love to kick you hard in the face, breaking it. Then I'd cut your stomach open with a chainsaw, exposing your intestines. Then I'd cut your windpipe in two with a boxcutter. Then I'd tie you to the back of a pickup truck, and drag you, until your useless *beep* corpse was torn to a million *beep* useless, bloody, and gory pieces.

    Hopefully you'll get what's coming to you. *beep* bitch


    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It'd be hilarious to see you begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head, leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. *beep*

    Shut the *beep* up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut to ribbons, and your throat slit.

    You're dead if I ever meet you in real life, f ucker. I'll f ucking kill you.

    I would love to f ucking send your f ucking useless ass to the hospital in intensive care, fighting for your worthless life.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po0j4ONZRGY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po0j4ONZRGY

    I wish you a truly painful, bloody, gory, and agonizing death, *beep*
  • KnowmaGPUs - Monday, November 24, 2008 - link


    Boy, this review site is so biased it's not even funny!

    AnandTech definitely puts the 'AT' in 'AT'I...

    "None of the AMD cards are stable running FarCry 2, crossfire is dead....but we still recommend 4870...." LOL!!

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