Holiday 2008 GPU Guide: Price Cuts Galore
by Derek Wilson on December 18, 2008 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Movin' On Up: $180 - $220 Graphics Cards
And here's where it gets really messy. The competition is brutal in this market and price cuts have bounced back and forth since this past summer. It's great for the consumer, but it makes it much harder to recommend products.
The graphical quality you can expect at this price point is terrific for everything short of a 30" monitor. It might not always grab you 4x or more antialiasing at the highest resolutions, but these parts will do high quality at high resolution (1920x1200) in most modern games. This is really the minimum spec graphics card you should look at if you've got a 30" display and want to game at full resolution, but you won't always be able to hit the highest quality options and AA will be really tight (especially in games that make heavy use of a lot of framebuffer at ultra high resolutions). Gamers who bought a 30" monitor for gaming and still have money left over will want a higher performance card.
The hardware up for debate here is the GeForce GTX 260 and the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. It's not quite that simple, as it could be with the price wars going on. And NVIDIA has been pushing for us to get out reviews of with all the games released last month. We are definitely working on testing all those new titles, and we do clearly see more competition from NVIDIA with the addition of these games. Clearly, it is possible for NVIDIA hardware to shine given the right title, but we know AMD hardware is no slouch either. Far Cry 2 is one of the games NVIDIA was pushing as a win for them, but in our recent tests we saw it was more of a wash. And washes are fine with us, as that means the consumer is really the winner.
Honestly before November, we would never have recommended the GeForce GTX 260 over the Radeon HD 4870. This time around, considering the increased competitiveness of NVIDIA hardware both in terms of performance on recent games and price mean it's not as clear cut. We also have the Core 216 to consider and the fact that manufacturers offer overclocked versions of NVIDIA hardware far more frequently than AMD hardware.
At the low end of this market, we are going to stick with recommending the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. Finding this part for under $200 is now possible (this is the original price point of the Radeon HD 4850 back at launch), and it competes with stock clocked GTX 260s with 192 SPs. If you want to stay in this general market segment and have a little extra money to spend, it's possible to find GeForce GTX 260 core 216 cards with modest overclocks that could push a buyers decision in that direction for an extra $20 or so. Really, with the pricing like it is here, you just can't go wrong no matter which option you go with. Solid recommendations are hard because of the variety of options and the tight pricing, but really the beneficiary is the consumer buying cards in this market.
Thus, we've decided to make a recommendation here based on platform. We still have some qualms with the AMD drivers running on Core i7 systems. Because people spending this much money should not have to worry about whether or not upcoming drivers will iron out all the outstanding issues, we will recommend that people with a Core i7 system go with the GeForce GTX 260 and those with other platforms pick up the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. Of course, if price is the absolute deciding factor for you, the cheapest 4870 we found did beat out the cheapest GTX 260 we could find.
Unexpectedly Affordable: The Radeon HD 4870 512MB (Image From newegg.com)
Non-Core i7 Recommendation: ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
Newegg | ZipZoomFly | TigerDirect | Buy.com |
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB | HIS Radeon HD 4870 512MB | HIS Radeon HD 4870 512MB | Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB |
$190 | $230 | $235 |
NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 260, a better mate for an i7 system (Image from productwiki.com)
Core i7 Recommendation: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Newegg | ZipZoomFly | TigerDirect | Buy.com |
MSI GeForce GTX 260 | MSI GeForce GTX 260 | EVGA GeForce GTX 260 | EVGA GeForce GTX 260 |
$191 | $220 | $237 |
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falcon8204 - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
this is the same deal iirc as the thanksgiving blowout sale.asus 4850 for 149.99 - 30 MIR = 129.99 with free shipping to boot. i just ordered one so you guys lookin for one better hurry before they sell out :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
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Eidorian - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
SAPPHIRE 100265L Radeon HD 4830 512MB comes down to $99 with free shipping today with the promo code EMCBCBKDB. Add on the $10 mail in rebate for $89.crimson117 - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
The newegg link to "PowerColor Radeon HD 4850" actually leads to the $85 POWERCOLOR AX4830 product page.Kroneborge - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
Of course one thing to think about too, is the option to upgrade later. It seems like if I get a 260, and then in a couple of month have some extra cash it's real easy to go SLI. If I get a 4870 there is no guaruntee that the crossfire bugs will have been worked out.And I think for a lot of us, it's easier to upgrade in stages like that.
7Enigma - Friday, December 19, 2008 - link
I don't agree. Unless you are the atypical gamer that upgrades video cards every 6 months single card solutions at the height of $/performance curve have always made more sense. Not to mention drivers have just not been there to see the great 1.5-2X performance increase we want out of doubling the card. The dual-gpu on the same board are much more beneficial since it's seen as a single card, but these are obviously at the high end.Now that AMD is competetive again especially. Back when the 8800 series came out you could have benefitted from SLI since there were basically no new parts for the better portion of 2 years. In this cycle, however, going with a 9600GT-260, holding out for 1-1 1/2 years then upgrading to a new single card will likely be a better move.
vshah - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
It would be awesome if you guys could include some comparisons with older cards. I'm still rocking a 6800gt, and wondering how the newer cards compare.derek85 - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
For performance comparison of old vs new cards, you can check out the GPU chart on Toms Hardware.Rippar - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
The 9800GTX+ SLI looks good considering the combo deals on newegg for it.Antec P182/9800GTX+ combo = $244
EVGA 750i FTW/9800GTX+ combo = $285
Then again, that case and motherboard have combos with the GTX260 as well.
DerekWilson - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
we chose not to look at any combo deals because that just made everything start to get too complex. we wanted to make it as general as possible too, and talking about only the price of a single card give people an idea of deals to be had for people looking to upgrade their existing single dual or triple slot mobos as well as people looking to build an entire system from the ground up.We might not have the absolute best deals you can find anywhere listed here, but some of these deals are really good and they weren't that hard to find. It should work as a starting point for people though. Especially if a combo deal will work for you.
Rippar - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
I know, I know. I'm just letting the people who read the commentrs know that there are some RIDICULOUS deals on video cards right now.