Holiday 2008 GPU Guide: Price Cuts Galore
by Derek Wilson on December 18, 2008 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Movin' On Up: $180 - $220 Graphics Cards
And here's where it gets really messy. The competition is brutal in this market and price cuts have bounced back and forth since this past summer. It's great for the consumer, but it makes it much harder to recommend products.
The graphical quality you can expect at this price point is terrific for everything short of a 30" monitor. It might not always grab you 4x or more antialiasing at the highest resolutions, but these parts will do high quality at high resolution (1920x1200) in most modern games. This is really the minimum spec graphics card you should look at if you've got a 30" display and want to game at full resolution, but you won't always be able to hit the highest quality options and AA will be really tight (especially in games that make heavy use of a lot of framebuffer at ultra high resolutions). Gamers who bought a 30" monitor for gaming and still have money left over will want a higher performance card.
The hardware up for debate here is the GeForce GTX 260 and the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. It's not quite that simple, as it could be with the price wars going on. And NVIDIA has been pushing for us to get out reviews of with all the games released last month. We are definitely working on testing all those new titles, and we do clearly see more competition from NVIDIA with the addition of these games. Clearly, it is possible for NVIDIA hardware to shine given the right title, but we know AMD hardware is no slouch either. Far Cry 2 is one of the games NVIDIA was pushing as a win for them, but in our recent tests we saw it was more of a wash. And washes are fine with us, as that means the consumer is really the winner.
Honestly before November, we would never have recommended the GeForce GTX 260 over the Radeon HD 4870. This time around, considering the increased competitiveness of NVIDIA hardware both in terms of performance on recent games and price mean it's not as clear cut. We also have the Core 216 to consider and the fact that manufacturers offer overclocked versions of NVIDIA hardware far more frequently than AMD hardware.
At the low end of this market, we are going to stick with recommending the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. Finding this part for under $200 is now possible (this is the original price point of the Radeon HD 4850 back at launch), and it competes with stock clocked GTX 260s with 192 SPs. If you want to stay in this general market segment and have a little extra money to spend, it's possible to find GeForce GTX 260 core 216 cards with modest overclocks that could push a buyers decision in that direction for an extra $20 or so. Really, with the pricing like it is here, you just can't go wrong no matter which option you go with. Solid recommendations are hard because of the variety of options and the tight pricing, but really the beneficiary is the consumer buying cards in this market.
Thus, we've decided to make a recommendation here based on platform. We still have some qualms with the AMD drivers running on Core i7 systems. Because people spending this much money should not have to worry about whether or not upcoming drivers will iron out all the outstanding issues, we will recommend that people with a Core i7 system go with the GeForce GTX 260 and those with other platforms pick up the Radeon HD 4870 512MB. Of course, if price is the absolute deciding factor for you, the cheapest 4870 we found did beat out the cheapest GTX 260 we could find.
Unexpectedly Affordable: The Radeon HD 4870 512MB (Image From newegg.com)
Non-Core i7 Recommendation: ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
Newegg | ZipZoomFly | TigerDirect | Buy.com |
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB | HIS Radeon HD 4870 512MB | HIS Radeon HD 4870 512MB | Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB |
$190 | $230 | $235 |
NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 260, a better mate for an i7 system (Image from productwiki.com)
Core i7 Recommendation: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Newegg | ZipZoomFly | TigerDirect | Buy.com |
MSI GeForce GTX 260 | MSI GeForce GTX 260 | EVGA GeForce GTX 260 | EVGA GeForce GTX 260 |
$191 | $220 | $237 |
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SiliconDoc - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link
How about " if you do FOLDING at Home " trying to find a cure for cancer, the price points being so close, and Nvidia cards EXCELLING at 5-10 times the performance of ATI cards for folding at home, your choice is CLEAR - Nvidia is the way to go.NO - no chance of it, huh.
One recommendation comes for HTPC concerning size and heat - for ATI of course from you, but when it comes to the GTX260 that has BETTER power and heat characteristics... don't mention that.
Whatever. Total SLANT.
SiliconDoc - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link
I see, when the Nvidia wins in performance, you cite a non existent price advantage ( like on the 130-180 page).You recommend the 512 ram version of the 4870 - never even mentioning the superior 896 ram on the GTX260/192 WHICH HAS BEEN $200 AT NEW EGG SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER....with A FREE GAME
But your text says before November you would have never recommended the GTX260 (even 192 apparently) ... when the 4870 512 WAS MORE EXPENSIVE - WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
So, when it's lower performance you want to save 5 bucks, you recommend the ATI card....
I am so sick of it. Before November the 8.12's were not out- so the 10% performance increase wasnt there.
You've ENTIRELY ignored CUDA and PHysX - why don't let that influence ANYONE....
What a CROCK of a review.
How about " if you already have an 8 series nvidia card and another pci-e slot- we fdefinitely recommend going with the NVidia choice in ALL CATEGORIES, because you can use your current NVidia card as a dedicated PhysX processor...."
NO - NO CHANCE of ever mentioning it.
SiliconDoc - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link
At newegg RIGHT NOW the lowest 4830 is 89.99, and the lowest 9800GT is 89.99I see where you MENTIONED the 9800GT and decided PRICE favored the 4830.
Whatever. You're bleeding red.
Am I supposed to comclude there's just 1 NVidia I should buy, or did I miss 1 other, since you also listed them SECOND in your entire piece no matter what ?
Why didn't you name the piece " Why only ATI should be purchased! " ?
SiliconDoc - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link
So the 9800GT for around $105 is not mentioned... LOLYou pretended it doesn't exist.
You managed to ignore it by picking the EXACT dollar categories that would allow you to. rofl
Tell me what does the 9800GT do for gaming - what card do you compare it to with ATI ? lol
Shame, shame.
SiliconDoc - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link
The 9800GT whips the 4830http://xtreview.com/images/HD4830vs9800GT.PNG">http://xtreview.com/images/HD4830vs9800GT.PNG
High rezz and plenty of AA and AF.
Oh well, only red cards will do.
Schmide - Thursday, December 18, 2008 - link
Before I went to bed it pointed to the MSI gtx 280. Looks good to me now.mlemboyo - Tuesday, November 9, 2021 - link
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