AMD HTPC

Everyone asks for HTPC component recommendations, and then when we publish them readers can't wait to throw rocks at our recommendations. Perhaps this is because the HTPC, more than any other computer class, is a very personal machine. It needs to meet the specific needs and demands of the end-users, who vary widely in what they plan to do with their new HTPC.

So let's first talk about our concept in these two HTPC configurations. We are assuming the user already has the HDTV (likely) or monitor he plans to feed, along with a sound system for that HDTV. The motherboards we recommend can reasonably feed audio signals for your Blu-Ray movies, but they are not integrated audio amplifiers. Since most end-users are on cable or satellite, and analog tuners become officially obsolete in the US in February 2009, we will make no recommendations at all for a TV tuner. Of the many possible uses of an HTPC, the great majority of end-users store, play, and stream movies with their HTPC computers. (Where these movies come from is a different topic that we'll avoid discussing for now.) That is mostly what their HTPC systems are used for and that is where we have concentrated our recommendations.

AMD HTPC System
Hardware Component Price
Processor AMD Phenom 8650 Toliman - Retail
(Tri-Core 2.3GHz 95W 3x512KB L2, 2MB Shared L3, Socket AM2+)
$97
Cooling CPU Retail HSF -
Video Onboard -
Motherboard ASUS M3N78-EM $90
Memory 4GB DDR2-800 - G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ $40
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EACS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $105
Optical Drive LG BD/HD DVD / 16x DVD+/- RW GGC-H20LK $120
Audio Onboard -
Case Lian LI PC-V350A $110
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail $50
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop EX100 USB RF Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse $25
Operating System Microsoft Vista Home Premium OEM $99
Bottom Line $736

The CPU chosen for the AMD HTPC computer is the tri-core Phenom 8650 based on the Toliman core. The three CPUs each run at 2.3GHz with a 512KB cache. The total power requirement of 95W works fine with our motherboard, but you can choose a lower power CPU if that is a large concern. We hesitate to call a Phenom CPU with three cores a low-end chip, but this is certainly one of the most reasonable Phenoms you can buy. It has plenty of power to take your AMD HTPC to most anywhere you chose to go.

With DDR2-800 so reasonable these days we equipped the HTPC with 4GB of G.Skill memory. We aren't really interested in overclocking this HTPC (though it's technically still possible), and spending additional money on even higher performance RAM just doesn't make sense. 4GB of memory, however, does make perfect sense in an HTPC box, as that will keep the UI snappy even when streaming large movies.

The $90 ASUS M3N78-EM is based on the NVIDIA GeForce 8300 chipset. The board features one PCI-E x16 slot, one PCI-E x1 slot, two PCI slots, 8GB memory support, NVIDIA Gigabit LAN, 7.1 HD audio, 12 USB ports, five 3Gb/s SATA ports with RAID support, IEEE 1394a, one eSATA port, HDMI/DVI/VGA output, and full support for the Phenom 140W processors. This board offers overclocking capabilities along with being a top-notch HTPC capable board. We highly recommend the GF8200/8300 series for the HTPC market due to hardware accelerated BD playback, multi-channel LPCM output, and very good application performance.

As we discussed in the HTPC introduction, we did not include a TV tuner in the configuration since most end-users are now distributing their cable and satellite feeds. Few users, therefore, have any real need for a TV tuner card. There's something else to consider in this, and that is the US government mandated February 19, 2009 deadline to end analog broadcasts. If you truly need a Digital TV tuner, one option that is pretty unique on the TV tuner side is the HD HomeRun from Silicondust USA. This is a dual HDTV tuner/recorder that functions over a network and provides ATSC/QAM support. The price of $169 is more than many other options, but this is arguably a more flexible overall solution - particularly with the mandated move to digital in just a few weeks.

What's the point of having an HTPC if you don't have a lot of storage space? To that end, we selected a newly affordable 1TB (1000GB) Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EACS SATA hard drive at just $105 - an astonishing 10.5 cents per GB! The WD Green is a variable speed energy saving design that we found to be among the quietest drives we have ever evaluated. For an HTPC, quiet operation is paramount, and this WD Green will not disappoint. The WD Green is a bit slower than true 7200RPM 1TB drives, but the real performance difference is very minor.

Another excellent HD option is the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 7200RPM 1TB at $110. Performance of this 1TB drive has been exemplary in early testing at AnandTech, and the drive has proved to be reasonably quiet. Seagate also makes a super-reliable 1TB drive optimized for video storage and retrieval called the Seagate SV35.3 ST31000340SV 1TB at $150. This "video" Seagate features 24x7 reliability with >1 million hours MTBF and improved read/write reliability. For those willing to pay the small premium the "video" Seagate drive would be a good choice.

The optical drive is certainly an upgrade to the entry and budget systems since a reasonable HTPC requires Blu-Ray playback capabilities. The LG Black 6X Blu-ray is an SATA drive that fits the bill without breaking the bank. It provides 6X Blu-Ray playback and the fastest recording and playback of DVD and CD media. Current price is around $120, but this drive sometimes goes on sale for $100 so look out for specials. There are also sub-$100 Blu-Ray options from Lite-On and a 6X Blu-Ray player at $105. We do not have much experience with this Lite-On drive, but Lite-On drives in the past have proved fairly reliable. That would make the Lite-On 6X Blu-ray a more reasonably priced alternative where every penny counts.

The HTPC case is one of those very personal options in building an HTPC computer. Some like the small cube form factor that can easily hide next to books on a shelf, while others prefer the audio component look. Our case choices will cover both options.

While it is fairly expensive for the actual size, we find the cube-like Lian Li PC-V350A a gem of a small aluminum cube. The PC-V350A is the silver version and the PC-V350B is the black version. Both colors sell for the same $110. There is enough space for all the typical HTPC requirements, with good cooling and above all the important blessedly quiet operation. Only a Micro ATX motherboard will fit and there are two 5.25" external drive bays that can open right or left and two internal 3.5" bays for hard drives. Front ports for USB, audio, and Firewire (IEEE 1394) are featured behind a door to keep the appearance sleek and uncluttered. At just 10.3" tall by 11" wide, the V-350A fits in most bookcases just fine, but the depth of 14.7" makes the Lian Li most comfortable on deeper 16" shelves (279mm W x 262mm H x 373mm D).

The little Lian Li is coupled with a robust PC Power & Cooling Silencer 500W power supply that you can currently buy for a bargain $50. You can spend more on a PSU but you will be hard pressed to find a unit as quiet and reliable as the Silencer. It also has enough power for whatever video card you might throw in your HTPC in the future - though high-end GPUs are at odds with the silence most desire from HTPCs.

If you prefer the "audio component" look in your HTPC an excellent alternative is the Silverstone LC13B-E Media Center case. It is worth mentioning that if you choose a full size ATX motherboard for your HTPC it will fit in the Silverstone. The Silverstone is presently on rebate, so the normal $115 price is reduced to $95 after the $20 rebate.

Since most will place their HTPC near their HDTV or big screen monitor, a wired keyboard and mouse are not really very useful in most setups. Control is more often done from across the room, so we selected a wireless RF Logitech keyboard and mouse. At just $25 for the pair, the Logitech Cordless Desktop EX100 keyboard/mouse package is a great value. This is also the HTPC preferred RF wireless set, which does not require "line of sight" that is needed for IR wireless.

The final price of the AMD HTPC comes to just $736. That is a real bargain considering the tri-core Phenom CPU, 4GB of memory, 1TB hard drive, and quiet Lian Li aluminum case with a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 500W PSU. You can certainly spend even less on a basic HTPC box, but we doubt you can build a more powerful or quiet system for the same money.

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  • Wixman666 - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    Nonsense, you're forgetting that they are posting builds that are user friendly for the general public. 99% of the people in the US couldn't install Linux if their life depended on it. Even for many supposed "power users" it is not exactly friendly.

    While it is indeed a good alternative, Linux is still just not for the mainstream.

    You guys also neglected to choose Vista 64 for forward thinking. Buying a 32 bit OS today is like throwing away money. If I wanted a 32 bit OS I'd buy XP home, pro, or media center.
  • n0nsense - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link

    People in US do install and use Linux like in any other place.
    Dumb
    Anyway you will install some OS and installing Vista is at least longer process at the first time and "find the drivers CD" on next time since even NIC wont work out of the box in most cases (XP much worse with default drivers).
    And usability, if my 60 years old (in average) parents can use it without calling me few times a week (like they did with XP), anyone can :)
  • strikeback03 - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    I'd guess that most users considering assembling their own computers (and for that matter most users who can put a CD in the drive) could install Ubuntu. And with reasonably mainstream hardware they might even have it run flawlessly. If you are willing to use the forums and such to find help you probably can get it to run on just about any system. The problem is that lots of people want it to just work, and you never know what you are getting with each new release. I have been using Ubuntu since 6.10 on my desktop and 7.04 on my laptop. Each release I have installed on the desktop has required new kernel flags to work around problems (noapic, nolapic, all_generic_ide, etc), and the 7.04, 7.10, and 8.04 LiveCDs didn't even boot without help. With 8.10 they seem to have fixed all that, I still haven't gotten around to actually installing it but it runs perfectly off a flash drive. My laptop (Thinkpad T43) , OTOH, had zero problems with any of the releases prior to 8.10, everything did just work. So I went ahead and installed 8.10 without any trial period, and it broke Wireless support, so that it would constantly disconnect from the router, then most times ask for the password on reconnecting and sometimes refusing to reconnect at all. Obviously not acceptable, so I went back to 8.04.

    I have installed Ubuntu on several other systems at work without problems (including one which is almost identical to my troubled desktop), but the point is that a lot of users probably don't want the uncertainty of whether their hardware will be happy with the software or not. Not that Vista has a spotless hardware support history, but most users probably feel more comfortable finding support for that than Linux.
  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    Actually, we didn't specifically state whether you should buy the 64-bit or 32-bit version, though we did mention that 64-bit is the way to go if you run 4GB or more RAM. There's only a couple applications I use regularly that utterly fail under 64-bit Vista: Dragon NaturallySpeaking (still waiting for their 64-bit update!) and Gametap (a bunch of the games fail to install/work under 64-bit Vista). So it's still not 100% the same as 32-bit, but I do run 64-bit for my primary gaming PC. My work PC remains 32-bit until the Dragon issue is fixed.
  • sprockkets - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    If you can assemble a computer, you can install Linux.

    By the way, that WD Green drive has NEVER been a variable speed drive; it operates at 5400rpm ALL the time. WD just doesn't want the public to fret over the fact that it is a 5400rpm drive so they obfuscate this fact as much as possible.
  • cbutters - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    I was just about to post that the WD wasn't a variable speed drive, but I see you have commented on it already, therefore, I second your post.
  • n0nsense - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    Truly, I can't understand why 20% of computer cost should be spent on OS.
    Yes, you can argue that other OS does not really support ALL games.
    But when talking about Internet/Office/Media non professional use (in professional people can choose Mac) for what f... reason should person to spend this 100 USD on something really not needed. Actually it's more then 100$ since they gonna need "good anti everything" soft which will slow down their already not so fast computers.
    On the other hand they can opt for something like Mythbuntu for HTPC, or Ubuntu for normal desktop and spend saved money on something better like tripling disk space, getting decent dedicated graphics and other things.
    And i'm disappointed that you don't even mention this.

    and please, add preview button for posts :)
  • DerwenArtos12 - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    Why didn't you all use the Corsair ram you were raving about in your memory guide, it's only a couple bucks more?
  • Wesley Fink - Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - link

    We certainly like the Corsair memory as well. As we said in the Buyers Guide:

    "RAM prices as a whole are certainly in the commodity category as of late. We recommended the Kingston 4GB DDR2-800 kit, but you could just as easily choose OCZ, G.Skill, Corsair, Crucial, GeIL, Patriot, or any other quality DDR2-800 name and shop for the memory based on a combination of price and the company's support reputation."
  • BernardP - Monday, December 29, 2008 - link

    I have had a system based on Asus M3N78-VM GeForce 8200 motheboard for a month. I have all the latest chipset, audio (NVidia + VIA) and video drivers installed. I have tried all possible audio settings and configurations, in WinXP and BIOS. Despite this, I have been unable to get audio through HDMI, although the HDMI video is perfect @ 1280x720.

    Searching on the net, this seems to be a widespread problem. Some users report they have HDMI audio working, but they don't seem to have done anything special to make it work.

    The fundamental problem is that, on my system, there is no visible option to select HDMI audio, either in Hardware Manager or Control Panel/Sounds.

    Anyone knows the sure-fire recipe to enable audio through HDMI on the 8200/8300 chipset?

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