NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295: Leading the Pack
by Derek Wilson on January 12, 2009 5:15 PM EST- Posted in
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Fallout 3 Performance
Fallout 3 is based on the Gamebryo engine that powered Oblivion, though it has gone through modifications and tweaks along the way. The game looks great with all the settings cranked and it's pretty fun as well. We disabled vsync and set iPresentInterval to zero, but we still had some quirks with framerate. It seems like we may be system limited in some ways, which is impressive given our system. In the future we will try to refine our test to make it more graphically intense though some .ini file tweaks and see if that helps out.
Framerates are compressed up near the 77 frames per second. The lead the NVIDIA hardware has here is thus also compressed. In running around, it is clear framerate is not limited: we saw max FPS up over 110, but the benchmark we ran just ends up coming out this way. This is a straight line outdoor run at twilight.
Again, the single Radeon HD 4870 1GB leads the GTX 260, but GTX 260 SLI outperforms the 4870 X2 indicating an SLI advantage over CrossFire (or an NVIDIA driver advantage over AMD -- without more low level technical data we can't assess what exactly the issue is). But as this article focuses on the GTX 295, even though the gap looks small we can say that this one goes to NVIDIA as well.
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Gasaraki88 - Monday, January 12, 2009 - link
It's stupid to get this card if you don't have a 30" monitor and a high end cpu. They are testing the video card here not CPUs. Testing on slower CPU will just show every card pegged at the same frame rate.This review was fine, thanks. =)
SiliconDoc - Thursday, January 15, 2009 - link
Gee, suddenly the endlessly bragged about "folding" means absolutely zero (ATI cards suck at it BTW) ... and you've discounted CUDA, and forgotten about PhysX ,,, and spit in the face of hundreds of thousands of single PCI-e 16x motherboard owners.Now go to the 4870x2 reviews and type that same crap you typed above - because I KNOW none of you were saying it THEN on the 4870x2 reviews...
In fact, I WAS THE ONLY ONE who said it at those reviews... the main reason BEING THE 4870X2 WAS RECIEVING ENDLESS PRAISE FOR WINNING IN THAT ONE 2560X resolution....
Yes, they couldn't stop lauding it up over how it excelled at 2560x - oh the endless praise and the fanboys drooling and claiming top prize...
Now all of sudden, when the red card get SPANKED hard....
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Yes, when I posted it at the red reviews - I didn't have folding or PhysX to fall back on... to NEGATE that... not to mention EXCELLENT dual gpu useage and gaming profiles OUT OF THE BOX.
The facts are, the 4870x2 had better be at least 100 bucks cheaper, or more - who wants all the hassles ?
TheDoc9 - Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - link
It wasn't fine for me, and I don't believe that this card should only be purchased by those with a 30" monitor and bleeding edge cpu. That someone with a fast core proc might be able to find some use with this product vs. the next slowest alternative. Prove to me I'm wrong.Nfarce - Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - link
Ok. I can look at many data results on this website with the GTX280 paired with an i7 and a stock clocked E8500 and do some interpolation of said data into the results here.See Exhibit A from the Jan. 8 article on AMD's Phenom II X4 940 & 920 using a single GTX280:
Crysis Warhead @ 1680x1050 (mainstream quality, enthusiast on) results:
Stock E7200 @ 2.53 GHz-> 66.2 fps
Stock E8600 @ 3.30 GHz-> 84.0 fps
Stock i965 @ 3.20 GHz-> 86.8 fps
Now back to this report with the same game resolution (but using gamer quality with enthusiast on) with a single GTX280:
Stock E7200 @ 2.53 GHz -> ???
Stock E8600 @ 3.30 GHz -> ???
Stock i965 @ 3.20 GHz -> 36.6 fps
Now using the GTX295:
Stock E7200 @ 2.53 GHz -> ???
Stock E8600 @ 3.30 GHz -> ???
Stock i965 @ 3.20 GHz -> 53.1fps
With the above data, it shouldn't take an M.I.T. PhD to reasonably get a figure of potentials with slower CPUs and lower resolutions.
TheDoc9 - Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - link
That actually is informative.A5 - Monday, January 12, 2009 - link
If you're not playing at 25x16, this card isn't going to make anything playable that isn't already on an existing, cheaper solution.In that same vein, the people who will drop $500 on a video card will most likely have a high-end CPU - there isn't a reason to test it on systems that aren't the top of the heap. They're testing the card, not the whole system - the conclusion to be made is that on any given set of hardware, Card X will outperform Card Y.
SiliconDoc - Monday, January 12, 2009 - link
Just like the bloated pig 4870x2 has been for so many months - a costly, outlandish, not neccessary, wild good for nothing at a bad pricepoint, unless you're playing at 2560x - and let's add, at that level it's sometimes not even playable framerates anyway.Glad to see people have finally come to realize what a piece of crap the 4870x2 solution is - thanks NVidia for finally straightening so many out.
This is great.
Hxx - Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - link
you obviously have no clue about video cards or you cannot afford one, which explains your attitude. First off the 4870 x2 is an awesome card much faster than any other card available except the 295. Second, it is reasonably priced at 400 after mir which is not bad for a high end product. This card can run every game out there just as good as the gtx 295. There is no difference between the two because once the game runs at 35 fps or above you will not notice a difference. In other words, the 16 fps difference in cod5 between the cards has no value because the game plays fine at 40fps. The gtx 295 priced at $500 is a waste of money. And btw I am not an ATI fanboy , I own a gtx 280.strikeback03 - Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - link
The 4870x2 launched at $550, so unless you need a new card RIGHT NOW you can wait until the initial rush on the GTX295 is over and the price settles down some.SiliconDoc - Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - link
So tell me about the forced dual mode in ATI ? Oh that's right mr know it all, they don't have that.SLI does.
Yes, I obviously know notihng, but you made a fool of yourself.
BTW - please give me the link for the $400.00 4870x2 - because I will go buy one - then post all the driver and crash issues.
Waiting....