Problems

The iBUYPOWER Gamer Paladin F860-a had only a few minor problems during our testing period. The system was very stable and would complete hours of testing without issues. We upgraded the video drivers to 9.4 to avoid problems when testing Far Cry 2. In the noise section we mentioned the intermittent rattling that seemed to be coming from a zip tied cable routed behind the backplate, which was annoying when it occurred. These cables should be secured to avoid this. We also experienced a couple of issues with the LG DVD±RW. First, we had a read issue on one of our discs, where Autoplay would not work but instead would flag the following prompt:


Manually exploring the disc was very slow, and the drive got very noisy while doing so. However, it worked fine on other burned discs and with pressed media.

While the system was stable and ran games flawlessly, the above are big issues when it comes to customer perception of quality, and should be addressed. Also, just as we mentioned with CyberPower, iBUYPOWER offers so many choices in their configurations that the customer must take care to order a balanced solution. An uninformed buyer can order the Gamer Paladin F860-a with an ATI HD 3450 (crippling its performance), and the "Help me Choose" only lists specifications and gives no indication whatsoever of the kinds of performance sacrifices or gains of the various cards. Choice is great, but we'd like to see a few "Recommended" cards or a better explanation of how the video card choice will impact this "gaming" system. If it has Gamer in the name, it should be baselined to some minimum level of gaming performance.

Pricing

All of the components in this system price out for just about $1720 on Newegg.com. With a sticker price of $1975, iBUYPOWER has a margin of about 13% to cover a 3-year labor/1 year parts warranty, 30-day money back guarantee (not including shipping) and lifetime technical support. This margin is identical from the last time we looked at the pricing of one of their systems. This is a fairly reasonable markup for a preassembled system at this tier, but other companies are also cost competitive.

Final Thoughts

This is our second look at iBUYPOWER. For high-end systems, we recommended looking around at other suppliers, since they don't offer the "uniqueness" or handholding that buyers in that market enjoy. At the "upper midrange", we still find ourselves somewhat unimpressed. While the product is fairly solid with good component choices available, there's no single compelling factor that sells this system. The CyberPower Core i7-920 system outperformed this particular configuration in most areas for about $500 less. Both companies are very similar when it comes to warranty coverage limitations and customer service rankings (as well as product offerings, websites, etc. - they look like clones). We still feel iBUYPOWER is worth looking at for low- and mid-range systems, or higher end systems for more technical customers that want a prebuilt system at a low premium. However, if you're on the hunt for a low-margin prebuilt system, we continue to recommend competitively pricing out several suppliers prior to hitting that "Check Out" button. Choice is very good, so unless you're in a time crunch you may find a few extra hours of research can save you a lot of money.

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  • Hxx - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    You're basically paying $255 for the commodity of having it aseembled for you.
  • san1s - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    don't forget paying for the building the computer was assembled in, the worker's wages, power/water bills...
    $255 over is a very good deal
  • Rasterman - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    I totally agree, in fact its quite a good deal IMO, if you are building a similarly specced machine you would be crazy not to just get a pre built one with being fully tested, warranty, etc, although I think the case is quite ugly in this one IMO. I was astonished how little markup there is, I thought it would be well over $400.

    What I would love to see is Newegg or Zipzoomfly offer a build option, order all your parts from them, and pay them $200 or whatever to completely assemble, test, and warranty the build, that would be awesome. Probably the biggest bonus I can see to this is getting a known working system, I can't stress how infuriating it is to get all your parts and build your system only to find out one component is bad then having to wait to get another. With a build option they could handle all of this for you and more quickly. And even worse is getting a glitchy product that causes intermittent problems.
  • Hxx - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    FYI u can get a glitchy product that causes intermittent problems with a prebuilt computer too. They're just "testing" it - whatever that means.
  • vol7ron - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    i agree. and not only that, moved into an apartment where i dont really have space to build anymore. this is what i'm looking at doing next.
  • MadMan007 - Monday, April 20, 2009 - link

    How much space do you need to build a PC?
  • poohbear - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    why do u guys even bother reviewing these pre-built fully loaded systems? most of us are enthusiasts that like to MAKE our own comps, it takes all the fun out of it if u pay someone else to build it for u. Seriously, just review parts, who cares what some company that caters to rich folks can offer.
  • snookie - Monday, June 1, 2009 - link

    "most of us are enthusiasts that like to MAKE our own comps,"

    Most of us? Who are most of us?

    Check their prices. Hardly catering to "rich folks".
  • Hxx - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    I agree, however unfortunately not everybody can follow a walkthrough on "how to build ur own computer in a few easy steps".
  • vol7ron - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - link

    it's not a waste of time. putting my own parts together was fun when i had time (and excess parts to test). it's no fun when you have multiple dead parts all at the same time and you don't know what it is, with no voltmeter to check.

    this is exactly as someone else said, taking newegg, putting it together, and charging a premium for the service. it's like getting a dell, with actually good parts. not to mention, if it's not working when you get it, just send it back; no need to hassle with the testing.

    i also would like to see other "competitors" in this genre as cyberpower seems to be the only one and they're a little pricey.

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