The FTC Sues Intel Over CPU & GPU Competition
by Ryan Smith on December 16, 2009 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Intel’s Response
Intel wasted no time in responding to the FTC’s suit. In their response, Intel has denied the accusations, and insisted that they have competed “fairly and lawfully,” noting that prices (ASPs) have been declining at a rate faster than any other industry.
Of particular note in Intel’s response is their claim that the FTC’s case “is based largely on claims that the FTC added at the last minute and has not investigated.” This we’re assuming means all of the GPU-related claims. You can read into this several ways, but our take is that Intel is more concerned with the GPU-related claims than the CPU-related claims at this moment.
Finally, Intel is understandably annoyed that this even reached the lawsuit stage. As we mentioned before Intel was already in settlement talks with the FTC, and believes that the issue should have been resolved there. In the failure of these talks, Intel has cited that the FTC “insisted on unprecedented remedies – including the restrictions on lawful price competition and enforcement of intellectual property rights set forth in the complaint.” As the FTC would not back down on their requested remedies and Intel would not accept them, this is what has lead to the case moving on to a lawsuit.
What the FTC Wants
So what does the FTC want? For one thing, not money. In their claims and requested remedies, they have not asked for any kind of fine, but rather are focusing exclusively on enforcing changes in the way Intel conducts business. This means their remedies are entirely corrective, rather than being a mix of corrective and punitive remedies such as what the EU has gone for.
What the FTC wants for Christmas: For Intel to license DMI
For their corrective remedies, here is what the FTC wants:
- For Intel to stop doing all of the things mentioned above.
- Intel cannot require OEMs to purchase only Intel CPUs and GPUs, purchase them in specific quantities, or to not purchase competitors GPUs and CPUs. This is effectively a stab at the rebates Intel has been offering for bulk purchasing, and the advertising help Intel has been offering to bulk purchasers.
- To stop prioritizing CPU shipments to loyal OEMs.
- To stop withholding technical support from disloyal OEMs.
- For Intel to be disallowed from producing/distributing any software or hardware that unreasonably excludes or inhibits the performance of competitors’ GPUs and CPUs.
- To stop selling things below cost. The FTC is defining this as being the average variable cost plus a “contribution to Intel’s fixed sunk costs in an appropriate multiple of that average variable cost.”
- For Intel to do a few different things about the versions of their compiler that put AMD at a disadvantage (which the FTC is calling the Defective Compiler): offer a substitute compiler to customers for free that is not a Defective Compiler, or to compensate customers in switching to another compiler, to provide notice to software buyers of products compiled using the Defective Compiler that they may need to replace their software.
- To stop Intel from making misleading statements.
- To prevent Intel from coercing benchmark organizations into adopting misleading benchmarks.
- For Intel to license the QPI and DMI buses to 3rd party chipset manufacturers.
- For Intel to not block the Global Foundries deal (AMD and Intel already settled this) or any similar deal that VIA might make.
- For Intel to stop badmouthing competing products unless they have solid scientific evidence.
- For Intel to foot the bill for the independent organization that will monitor this.
It’s a long list, but there’s nothing in it that’s particularly surprising. The FTC’s ultimate goal is to get Intel to stop engaging in all of the anti-competitive actions they have been engaging in for the last decade, and to have them directly monitored for an indefinite period of time in the future to make sure they do not resume these actions.
On an interesting note, the FTC chose an unusual way to go about this suit. Without getting into the nitty-gritty of anti-trust laws, the FTC has multiple sections of the FTC act to charge violators under. Normally when they engage in a lawsuit, they charge them under Section 2, which allows for harmed consumers to sue violators in private for triple damages. The FTC has decided that it’s in the best interest of everyone to not open Intel to that kind of liability or to take the risk that they’ll lose the suit based on that kind of liability, and instead charge them under Section 5. The big difference between the sections is that a Section 5 violation only leaves Intel open to the damages caused by their actions, and not to triple that price tag. Overall the use of Section 5 is very rare compared to Section 2, but the use of it is growing according to the FTC.
At this point we do not have any idea what the price tag would be on damages for Intel if they were to lose this suit, but it’s a reasonable expectation that it won’t be cheap, going into the billions of dollars. Triple damages would make that even higher. As triple damages were established as a punitive solution, this is consistent with the FTC’s position that they are not trying to enact a punitive remedy upon Intel.
Conclusion
So when does this battle royale kick-off? Not for a while, it seems. The case is currently scheduled to go before a judge on Wednesday, September 15th of 2010, which is 9 months from now. Even if it were to start on time (it likely won’t), a ruling would take an equally long time. It may be 2012 before the case is ruled on, later if the case starts late.
In the meantime, there are the positions of NVIDIA, Intel, and AMD to consider. Despite the FTC’s immediate concerns, with the recent cancelation of Larrabee Prime, Intel probably isn’t the risk to the GPU market that the FTC believes they are. The question will be what Intel will be announcing in 2010 as the successor to Larrabee Prime, and what actions they may be taking. It’s not in their best interests with this case to engage in anything that might be seen as disparaging of AMD or NVIDIA GPUs, which in turn may influence Intel’s actions here.
As for AMD, for them this entire matter is largely settled when it comes to CPUs. Their exposure on the GPU side is a bit more nebulous – they aren’t going to make integrated GPUs for Intel processors, so their exposure is in the smaller discrete GPU market. Without a better idea of what the FTC is accusing Intel of when it comes to discrete GPUs, it’s hard to say what the impact of this is. If this stops Intel’s anti-GPGPU efforts however, then it’s going to be good news for AMD’s efforts in that field.
Fermi: Intel's greatest fear?
And finally there’s NVIDIA. NVIDIA has been on a crash-course with Intel for some time now, and they would have it no other way. For NVIDIA this has been a very good month: first Larrabee Prime gets canceled, and now the FTC is going to fight Intel in court over several issues that effectively has the FTC fighting Intel on NVIDIA’s behalf. This could go a very long way in boosting NVIDIA’s GPGPU efforts with Fermi, not to mention the fact that the IGP chipset business has been quite good to NVIDIA lately and is something they would like to continue. This suit could come quite close to defanging Intel from NVIDIA’s perspective.
On a long-term perspective, we’re left wondering where this is going to leave the entire market when it comes to GPU/CPU integration. Both AMD and Intel have been pushing it, with Intel preparing CPUs with both on-chip and on-die GPUs. Could a successful FTC suit put a stop to this Fusion for Intel? Will this slow down or stop GPU/CPU integration for the entire market, and greatly benefit CPU-less NVIDIA in the process? The outcome of this case could very well have an impact greater than just stopping any anti-competitive actions Intel is engaging in, so it’s going to be something we’ll be keeping a very close eye on.
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iwodo - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link
Yes, Give Nv an x86 license, ( Or allow them to Purchase VIA ),I would love to see an Geforce X86 combined GCPU.
Ard - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link
Just a correction. The legal term you're referring to as it relates to damages provided under Section 2 is "treble damages." This allows for the damage award to be tripled. You had the right idea, just the wrong term.mrd0 - Friday, December 18, 2009 - link
Also, you mean Section 2 of the Sherman Act and Section 5 of the FTC Act...idoln95 - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link
Could someone explain to me why doesn't the FCC (or some other government body) takes actions against microsoft?THEY are the worse monopoly of all.
They control 90% of the OS market, They threat hardware manufacturers that make decent drivers to other Operating systems and help fund computers for schools as long as they have windows on it (The children must get use to using Microsoft products.).
I know i sound paranoid, but everything i say is true.
What other company can make developers write BAD and miswritten websites just to make them work with a BAD browser?
Laitainion - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link
They did, the US tried to split Microsoft in 2 about 10 years ago, and the EU's been suing their arse almost non-stop for the past 5 years or more.As a result, IE8 AS STANDARD has dropped all of Microsoft's propriety extensions, so websites written to work with IE6 won't render properly in standards mode. IE8 now passes ACID2, while ACID3 is another story it *is* an improvement. Plus ACID3 wasn't finished until half-way through (or more) IE8's development cycle. (Ask wiki)
As for the hardware thing, I think you meant threaten and I have heard nothing of the sort and what's wrong with Microsoft helping school's buy computers? If a company wants to help buy equipment for schools, more power to them. It's not as if the schools have to accept the money. I'm at uni now, and love the fact that I can get academic licenses for just about every piece of Microsoft software for free.
Penti - Friday, December 18, 2009 - link
Well the fat file system is patented and they successfully sued GPS-maker TomTom for using the built in support for FAT in the Linux Kernel (or systems).How would you make an updateable system without vfat? You got to have the capability to put the files there with your Windows computer. Same is true for every media player and digital camera out there.
Now TomTom pays a patent license for FAT32...
The Novell-deal doesn't make this situation better it's creates a climate of FUD. Other companies don't go after Linux in this way. Actually Intel develops Linux distributions (Moblin). Oracle has actually made an agreement to not sue PostgreSQL and MySQL for patent infringement when used together with Linux as they have joined OIN. And are of course developing their own distribution.
Taft12 - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link
I agree with you that MS has cleaned up it's act from the bad old days around the turn of the century (don't ever forget MS will always be a convicted monopolist), but it sounds as if you have been bought off by their "free" software.In case you aren't aware, MS enjoys tax write-offs from their software donations to schools and gets an inside track into the hearts and minds of children. This is not completely benevolent activity
ltcommanderdata - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link
I agree that actions that are blatantly malicious should not be allowed, such as refusing sales or support to resellers who also offer competitors' products or deliberately skewing benchmark results to reduce the performance of competitors' products.But some of the FTC's other complaints seems questionable. For example, can the FTC actually make it illegal for Intel to design a processor with 1 PCIe x16 slot instead of 2 as implied in the article? With transistors shrinking and transistor count pretty much doubling every 2 years and the lack of breakthroughs in multithreading, it makes sense to put an IGP on die since there is room in the transistor budget rather than keep doubling core counts. If it's acknowledged that the CPU and GPU are converging, it seems counterintuitive for discourage Intel from following that evolution by integrating GPUs at reduced costs.
Intel should license DMI and QPI to third parties although I'm not sure how viable the IGP chipset business would be for nVidia even if Intel does. DMI is low-bandwidth and probably wouldn't be sufficient to allow a nVidia IGP to share the on-CPU memory controller. If nVidia IGPs then integrate their own memory controller and own memory pool to compensate, then that eats into the cost, power, and motherboard area advantages of IGPs. QPI is only used on high-end CPUs, which wouldn't be the target audience for IGP chipsets anyways.
TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link
Intel has never had a good graphics solution - in fact it is the worst. This CPU GPU convergence is a convenient excuse for Intel to force "bundle" its crappy graphics with its CPU. Did you ever think they would bundle a quality nvidia or ATI graphics chip with their CPU?Intel tool PC manufacturers like Dell, HP, Acer, Toshiba, and Sony will like just ship the crappy graphics chip and lie "say" to everyone that it's good. I'm sure they roll out some make believe benchmark to prove it.
The only thing that bothers me is the timing. I'd like to think that our Government is trying to protect consumers, but it may well be that this is just some political, pre-election year, shake-down and Intel has deep pockets. It's FTC v. Microsoft all over again.
Taft12 - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link
[quote]but it may well be that this is just some political, pre-election year, shake-down and Intel has deep pockets. It's FTC v. Microsoft all over again.[/quote]Every second year is a pre-election year. I don't find this timing suspicious.
I am in agreement with most of the FTC's complaints and it sounds like you are as well. I was certainly in agreement with FTC vs Microsoft, and MS was rightfully convicted as a monopolist. These things must be done.