Choosing the Best H55/H57 Motherboard - Part 1
by Rajinder Gill on January 31, 2010 11:30 PM EST- Posted in
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Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War II
We are big fans of the Warhammer franchise, especially Dawn of War II. One of the latest RTS games in our library is also one of the more demanding titles on both the CPU and GPU. We crank all options to Ultra, enable AA, and then run the built-in performance benchmark for our result.
Far Cry 2
Featuring fantastic visuals courtesy of the Dunia Engine, this game also features one of the most impressive benchmark tools we have seen in a PC game. For single GPU results we set the performance feature set to Very High, graphics to High, and enable DX10 with 2xAA.
A surprising result, it seems the Clarkdale architecture is suited to Far Cry 2. Stock results surpass the i7-920 at 4GHz in this benchmark. We're not quite sure why this is the case, but the results are repeatable in this bench.
Resident Evil 5
For our final game benchmark we decided to add the Resident Evil 5's fixed time demo, running DX10, Ultra settings and 4xAA.
We're on a level playing field in this benchmark; there's a bit of scaling between 3~4GHz after which the Resident Evil engine is GPU bound.
In all three of these benchmarks, it's apparent that speeds higher than 4GHz on Clarkdale don't offer much in the way of frame rate scaling with an NVIDIA GTX 275 GPU. A more powerful GPU or an overclock of the graphics card would be required to see any gains from pushing the platform further.
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Rajinder Gill - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Hi,For i3 530 results, you can compare the i3~i5 deltas in Anand's coverage here;
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...">http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...
That gives as a basic idea of what to expect. The actaul IGP consumption variance from board to board will be aroud 10~15w I'd expect. I can run some fo this stuff in the follow up.
regards
Raja
hyvonen - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Hi Raja,The MSI H55M-ED55 looks awesome for low-power HTPC, but the lack of undervolting is an incomprehensible miss on MSI's part. If they are as gung-ho about low-power as they claim, they should most definitely offer undervolting too.
Could you guys suggest to MSI that they should add undervolting options to their future BIOS releases? I know Anand's team has a lot of influence on manufacturers, and this could really help out MSI and their customers alike.
Rajinder Gill - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Sure thing, I'll pop it in a message to them.regards
Raja
hyvonen - Tuesday, February 2, 2010 - link
Thanks - this is much appreciated.YellowWing - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Thanks for the link to Anand article, but all of his power figures are for a machine using a graphics adapter. The i5-661 and i3-530 clock the graphics at different rates. So... imho it would be ideal to see idle and load figures for the i3-530.hyvonen - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
SilenPCReview has a pretty good review on i5-661, where the system is configured for HTPC purposes (i.e., IGP & superlow power). They even touch on PSU efficiency at low power levels (the efficiency is pretty awful, even for a 450W 80plus PUS).http://www.silentpcreview.com/intel-clarkdale">http://www.silentpcreview.com/intel-clarkdale
I've already decided to go with a PicoPSU that should give me about 80% efficiency at 20-30W idle.
hyvonen - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Oh, and I wanted to point out that i5-661 was idling at extremely low power levels in that review. Moreover, I've seen another review somewhere comparing i5-661s and actual i3-530s - in that review, the i3-530 idle power was higher! My guess is that the idle power levels are so low in both that it's all within measurement noise.nuudles - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Hi Anand,Any news on when we will start seeing mini-ITX H55/57 boards? With more and more mATX boards mini-ITX is becoming the mATX of a couple of years ago.
I know that there is one DFI mini-ITX p55 board at Newegg, but it is $147 with shipping, plus something like a i3 530 would be an ideal match for a mini-ITX H55 for a very small + low power system (HTPC, etc).
Or if you add a small-ish video card like a 5750 then you have a nice and small (non-hardcore) gaming system.
Thanks!
Rajinder Gill - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Hi,We expect some of these vendors to have M-ITX boards somewhere over the next few months (hopefully).
Zotac have a H55 model that should be on sale soon:
http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product_...">http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=sh...mp;optio...
Nothing concrete yet from the big players in terms of release dates/models etc unfortunately.
regards
Raja
AstroGuardian - Monday, February 1, 2010 - link
Hello Raja and everyone:Would you be so kind and point me to a site or anything that has Intel and AMD chips compared? Live Lynnfield vs Clarkdale vs everything?
I have been into hardware for a loooong time but i was doing some science work lately and i am out of grip with latest chips.
Thanks everybody. This review was great