AMD’s Radeon HD 5830: A Filler Card at the Wrong Price
by Ryan Smith on February 24, 2010 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
Also Announced: Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition
While we were being briefed about the 5830, AMD also used the opportunity to tell us about the 5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition. You may better know this card as Trillian, a card that AMD was showing off (but not naming) all the way back at their 5800 series launch event in September. The 5870E6 is the 6 port mini-DisplayPort card that AMD was using to drive their 6 monitor and 24 monitor setups during the event.
AMD is finally ready to launch the card (and we’re assuming the 6 display Samsung mega-monitor is done too) which is why AMD is announcing it today. We have the complete specs of the card, but AMD is not quite ready to discuss its performance so we have yet to receive a sample card nor can we talk about its expected performance until a later date.
AMD Radeon HD 5970 | AMD Radeon HD 5870E6 | AMD Radeon HD 5870 | AMD Radeon HD 5850 | |
Stream Processors | 2x1600 | 1600 | 1600 | 1440 |
Texture Units | 2x80 | 80 | 80 | 72 |
ROPs | 2x32 | 32 | 32 | 32 |
Core Clock | 725MHz | 850MHz | 850MHz | 725MHz |
Memory Clock | 1GHz (4GHz data rate) GDDR5 | 1.2GHz (4.8GHz data rate) GDDR5 | 1.2GHz (4.8GHz data rate) GDDR5 | 1GHz (4GHz data rate) GDDR5 |
Memory Bus Width | 2x256-bit | 256-bit | 256-bit | 256-bit |
Frame Buffer | 2x1GB | 2GB | 1GB | 1GB |
Transistor Count | 2x2.15B | 2.15B | 2.15B | 2.15B |
TDP | 294W | 228W | 188W | 151W |
Manufacturing Process | TSMC 40nm | TSMC 40nm | TSMC 40nm | TSMC 40nm |
Price Point | $599 | >$400 | $400 | $300 |
In a nutshell, the 5870E6 is a 2GB version of the 5870 equipped with 6 mini-DisplayPorts for its output. The core and memory clocks are the same as the regular 5870, while the extra RAM is to cover the larger framebuffer that would be required for such a large surface (6 1080P monitors would be 12.5MP). AMD has to equip the card with 16 GDDR5 chips in 16bit mode (as opposed to 8 chips in 32bit mode) to get 2GB of memory, so the power usage of the card will be 228W under load, and 34W idle. This means it will take a 6pin PCIe power plug and an 8pin power plug to drive the card, the only 5800 series card to have such a requirement.
AMD will once again be using the 5800/5900 series trademark shrouded cooler, this time with a full vent along the second slot to deal with the additional heat from the extra GDDR5 chips. At this point we don’t know how long the card will be, although we wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up being longer to fit the extra GDDR5 chips and power circuitry.
In order to drive adoption and to make things a bit easier for buyers, AMD will be having their partners include a number of dongles with the card so that no one is caught completely off guard by the exclusive use of mini-DP. The 5870E6 will come with 2 mini-DP to DP dongles, 2 mini-DP to single-link DVI dongles, and a single mini-DP to HDMI dongle. This will give the 5870E6 a similar degree of output flexibility as the 5870, even though it’s composed entirely of mini-DP ports.
Since this is still being driven by Cypress, the clock source limitation has not changed. Cypress only has 2 clock sources for DVI-type displays, so the 5870E6 can only drive up to 2 DVI/HDMI displays using passive adapters. Furthermore if you want to drive a 2560 display or a 120Hz 1920 display, you’re going to need active adapters regardless of clock sources. So if you’re thinking of buying this as a 2GB 5870 to drive your 2560 DVI monitor, you’re still going to be shelling out another $100 for an active adapter. Even with the dongles, it’s clear that this card really is meant to be paired with DP/mini-DP monitors for the long-run.
As for pricing information, AMD has not announced a final price for the card. But since the regular 5870 is already at $400 it’s safe to tell you that this card will be in excess of $400.
Finally, we’re left wondering whether this card is a bit ahead of its time. Eyefinity is certainly ready (particularly with the Catalyst 10.3 driver additions that will be coming) but AMD’s current power situation means that they can either offer a 2GB 5870 or a 2GB (1GB effective) 5970, but not a 4GB (2GB effective) 5970. Based on our reviews of the 5870 and 5970 we’re not convinced that a 5870 is fast enough to drive 6 monitors and run games at a high level of detail at the same time, and at the same time more memory would seem to be critical for the frame buffer size that would result from such a setup. With Crossfire Eyefinity fully working as of the Catalyst 10.2 drivers, we suspect anyone serious about a 6 monitor setup is going to want to go for a pair of these cards in Crossfire mode so that they have the rendering performance to drive such a high resolution display. It would be costly (>$800) but then again so would a 6 monitor setup.
We’ll have more on the 5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition once it launches.
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philosofa - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
Shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup.BTW - I own a 5870, STFU - just, S.T.F.U.
You clearly haven't read the review, are a fanboi or are paid by ATI. I don't give a flying frack what other reviews have said - you clearly haven't read the facts as this is an overpriced, strangely slow, power hungry card.
Why does there always have to be some muppet with rose-tinted goggles on who feels facts are subservient to his pathetic allegiance to a design house? JUST SHUT UP. God...
Parhel - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
I also thought the 5870 review here was very negative. Anandtech gave it the worst reception of any major reviewer. It was the only time I remember being disappointed by a review on Anandtech in the maybe 8 years I've been a reader.Expecting a $349 MSRP card (at the time) to outperform last generation's $600 dual GPU card across the board is unrealistic. And then, disregarding price, power consumption, heat, noise, and new features, and basing the conclusion solely on FPS isn't the type of thoughtful product review I've come to expect from Anandtech.
Believe it or not, I'm not a fanboy or someone with a huge emotional investment in these products either. Hell, I don't even play PC games.
DominionSeraph - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
Hey, people with no accomplishments of their own have to get a self-image from somewhere.Just sit back and let them be inferior. It's not like there's any other option open to them.
DominionSeraph - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
Needlessly negative? It's 4890 performance for $40 more than a 4890. Where's the upside in paying more for the same performance?This is a new generation of cards. A new generation is supposed to bring a reduction in the price of performance, not an increase.
medi01 - Friday, February 26, 2010 - link
It was actually mentioned in the article.Voldenuit - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
I wouldn't buy it even at $180.Sorry, ATI. NO SALE.
Paladin1211 - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
May be you should get a GTX480 for $810?PhysX, CUDA are waiting for you :)
xeopherith - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
I agree. I just bought two 5770's for $264 from the egg. How can you charge so much for a 5830! To get me to buy the card it would have to be priced around the 5770's current price so that I could run in crossfire. Maybe put the price of two 5830's just slightly above the 5850. Maybe $165.I mean buying the two 5770's saved me a bunch of money over a 5850 and can be better performance in the tests. Why make things look even worse for the higher end.
AznBoi36 - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
You guys are just too spoiled and have short term memories. You can blame the prices on lack of competition from Nvidia.gumdrops - Thursday, February 25, 2010 - link
oh ok cool