Shuttle XP17 Preview: A better looking 16ms LCD
by Kristopher Kubicki on July 29, 2004 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Full Screen Application
Here are a few quick looks at some demanding full screen applications. All of these screenshots are taken with the Analog input on the LCDs.The Matrix Reload, The Matrix - We use the Matrix series to test full motion video on our XP17. Full motion video was actually extremely pleasing in a dimmed environment. The full advantages of the 16ms response time were not noticeable due to the 29.97 FPS on the DVD, but contrast and brightness were right on.
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Morrowind - Even though Morrowind is already a fairly washed out game as far as colors go, the 6-bit LCD panel does not do it much justice either. What is even worse is the extremely noticeable reflection and glare. A particular hardware journalist is extremely visible in the image captured below.
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Max Payne 2 - Max Payne proved to be the low point of the review for the XP17. In our opinion, the game was nearly unplayable. Glare and reflection were one major issue, but distinguishing objects from one another in the dark shadows proved extremely difficult; the fine hue differentiation didn't exist.
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Halo - Halo fared much better than Max Payne. Generally, the levels are lighter and outdoors, so the monitor did not present as much of an issue with reflections. Dark portions of the game, particularly the night levels, washed out from time to time.
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Unreal Tournament 2004 - Where Max Payne is the lowest point in this monitor's review, Unreal Tournament is the highest. We still noticed reflections here and there in dark areas, but generally, game play was fluid, colors were accurate, and very rarely did the image wash out.
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marcusgdaniels - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
In light of the claim that there is a new model shipping with better anti-glare coating, I am not encouraged to see that there is a no refund/no return policy on the XP17. It makes one wonder if they are shipping less `perfect' units to overeager buyers...Jyrinx - Friday, August 13, 2004 - link
Oh, yeah, I forgot my point :-) So, do you suppose you'll be amending the review, or does Shuttle only get one chance? (Not sure what your policy is; I'd just like to know if you would think better of the monitors as available now.)Jyrinx
Jyrinx - Friday, August 13, 2004 - link
Hey - I just got word from Shuttle that (contrary to common sense) they sent you a crappier demo than the production units (as agrees with the word on the street), and that the ones shipping have nicer anti-glare/reflection coating on them. Here's the original e-mail:---
Thank you for contacting Shuttle Computer.
That XP17 monitor we sent to reviewer Anadtech was the first demo
product we have, so it is not as perfect as the product we just released
now.
The product we have now has anti-glare coat on each monitor.
If you have any question, please let us know.
Thank you.
Sonic Tseng
Account Executive
Shuttle Computer Group,Inc.
Phone:(626)820-9000 ext.201
Fax:(626)820-5060
Email: sonict@us.shuttle.com
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Jyrinx
jyrinx@mindspring.com
fragstar - Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - link
refering to your comments that the Neovo monitor didn't have a glare issue, I took the panel off my monitor to show the world how bad viewing the neovo monitor really is.Check out my thread in the video section of the forums for pictures
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=...
MadAd - Tuesday, August 3, 2004 - link
Going slighly off topic, I hope you are going to be evaluating the L2335 sometime soon? (16ms 23" tft)Thx Kris
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
nullpointerus: Yeah, glare was an issue, but plain old reflection was terrible too - which is probably much worse!Kristopher
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
nullpointerus: I like your suggestion. Consider it done for the next review.Kristopher
nullpointerus - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
And if you think Max Payne can stress test the glare on a display, you should try running one of the Thief series. You will *kill* your eyes if you don't have the right setup. If glare is such a big issue, maybe someone at Anandtech could incorporate this game into the display articles?nullpointerus - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
It sounds like that 17" LCD is just what I'm looking for provided I can eliminate the glare problem. Kinda negates its usefulness as a LAN gaming LCD if you have to tote around an easily-smudged glare filter, though.Just an FYI for Anandtech readers: glare can usually be fixed by removing glare emitting light sources (e.g. putting room darkening blinds over windows, switching to properly angled halogen lights) and by purchasing a decent glare filter (e.g. Fellowes) which can usually be had at a good price on eBay.
CRXican - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
Have you guys checked out the price tag? They want $650 for that thing. Rip off!!!