OCZ VX Revisited: DDR Updates on DFI nForce4
by Wesley Fink on March 30, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Final Words
Conclusions have not really changed in our update to DDR performance testing on the DFI nForce4. Across the board, OCZ VX is the fastest memory that we have tested when comparing equivalent speeds. However, we also found that other top-performing DDR memory also does better on the DFI nF4. The result is that other top DDR memory is capable of achieving similar performance to VX, although they require higher CPU speeds and memory speeds to offset the slower memory timings and slower performance of the memory chips at the same speed. Results were closer between top competing memory than it appeared in our initial review, and we found this to be almost completely attributable to the better performance of nVidia 71.84 compared to the earlier 61.77 drivers.In the end, the fastest memory that we have tested is OCZ PC4000 VX Gold. Across the range from DDR400 to DDR533, it outperforms any DDR memory that we have tested. This certainly proves that timings do indeed still matter, and 2-2-2 timings combined with a faster memory chip can yield impressive performance levels. The "gotcha" is that you will need a lot of voltage - up to 3.6 volts - to reach these performance levels. The DFI nF4 pair are the only productions boards we are aware of that can supply these kinds of voltages. You can also achieve these voltages on some motherboards by using the OCZ DDR Booster.
There is certainly good news for other top memory on the DFI nF4, however. Almost all of the memory could achieve roughly equivalent performance to the OCZ VX Gold at higher memory speeds and higher CPU speed. TCCD at 318x9 or 280x10 were roughly equivalent to VX performance at 267x10. This required both higher CPU speed and higher memory speed to offset the advantage of fast 2-2-2 timings and fast Winbond chips in OCZ VX. Crucial Ballistix came closest to OCZ VX performance across the curve, since Micron chips do appear more equivalent in performance to Winbond than Samsung TCCD. However, TCCD can reach higher memory speeds, which offsets the Ballistix advantage if your system is capable of the higher speeds. Corsair was particularly fast for a TCCD memory in the 466 to 533 range, exactly where it is targeted. The Corsair did not do as well at the highest speeds on the DFI as it has done on other platforms, but that can likely be fixed with a BIOS revision. In the end, everyone's top performances were pretty comparable.
If you have the means to reach the voltage levels required by VX , then OCZ Gold VX is definitely the fastest memory that you can buy. It tops out at DDR533, but it is just as fast at that speed as TCCD at DDR636 or DDR560 at higher CPU speeds. All 4 memories can achieve similar top performance levels, but OCZ VX Gold does it at the lowest DDR speed and fastest timings. Across its bandwidth of DDR400 to DDR533, OCZ VX Gold is the fastest memory that we have tested. At the top, other top DDR can match VX performance, but they require higher CPU speed and/or memory speed to offset the memory timing advantages of OCZ VX Gold.
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adg1034 - Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - link
Wesley- could you do a follow-up with the "Value VX"? I'd love to see how that does.Gogar - Friday, April 15, 2005 - link
I'm wondering how a 3000+ would perform in the used setup with the OCZ Plat rev2. Assuming it can reach the MHZ, would it really be the same as a 4000+?JoKeRr - Sunday, April 3, 2005 - link
#50, pretty sure A8N SLI gives Vdimm upto 3V.ISS - Saturday, April 2, 2005 - link
No doubt OCZ VX memory is cool. However, there is 1 major point to consider which I don't think anandtech did mention.Whats the long term effects of pushing running 3.5V on A64. I have read from forums that some users ended up with dead CPUs after pushing high memory voltages. I am not sure but I guess they have a dead memory controller. Can A64's on-die memory controller handle 3.5V Vdimm for prolong periods? Such as 3-6 months or even longer?
AMD did mention before that running high Vdimm may damage the CPU and void the warranty though. Also, you would have notice that literally all board manufacturers other than DFI limits the Vdimm to just 2.85V.
cryptonomicon - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
man, i wish they included a sweet pair of BH-5 in all of their mem tests (one of the 280+ mhz pairs 2225 ~3.3-3.4v) just so i would have a point of reference to all this NEW ram.NotoriousGIB - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
Ohh...last comment was for poster 26.NotoriousGIB - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
Thx for the comment, but I was already aware of that. Wesley, plz post your DRAM & Genie BIOS settings used in this comparison. If there are any other OCZ VX users that have busted 250MHz, please post your settings.Zebo - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
"zebo, i have no idea what you tried to just say "Don't worry about it just get the cheapest ram like Buffalo B-line /corsiar value and you'll be just fine. All this stuff is overated, overpriced and for competitive benchmarkers only.
ozzimark - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
#39-i've been through 4 sticks of ballistix. all of them can make it to 245mhz at 2.5-2-2-5, which is the limit of my memory controller. i think inconsistancy is a thing of the past now.
i would try to prove you wrong on your second point, but i'd need a new cpu for that :(
Teetu - Thursday, March 31, 2005 - link
is there anyway I get anand's complete settings for the ballistix ram?i know with the older bios DFI recommended bank interleave off, but has that changed with the 3/10 bios?