Closing Thoughts
So we tested three "budget" platforms today with varying results. The one firm recommendation we can make should come as no surprise. Simply put, socket 754 is a dead end, even though performance is still generally acceptable. AMD might continue to support it, and the motherboards and chips are on the market at reasonable prices, but for a slight increase in price you will definitely get more potential out of socket AM2 or socket 775. Unfortunately, as nice as the Biostar TForce 550 motherboard appears, it seems to be in need of some updates before it can truly become a great budget overclocker. (Never underestimate the importance of a motherboard BIOS.) Still, we're inclined to recommend socket AM2 right now, as we have yet to see any budget socket 775 motherboards available that will support Core 2 Duo chips. Hopefully, that will change during the next few weeks.
What else have we learned? If you're really interested in high resolution plus high image quality gaming, there's no substitute for a fast graphics card. The 7600 GT is a very impressive card given the price, but you're not going to run UXGA/WUXGA (1600x1200/1920x1200) resolutions with 4xAA on any of the more recent titles. If you don't have a monitor capable of supporting higher resolutions, however, it's currently one of the most reasonable gaming GPUs on the market for SXGA (1280x1024) gaming. A few titles (F.E.A.R., Oblivion, Call of Duty 2) will need to run with lowered detail settings, as will future titles, but unless you're ready to spend $250 or more on the graphics card we would recommend sticking with the 7600 GT. Fans of ATI will get similar performance - better in some games, slightly worse in others - from the X1800 GTO, typically for about $25 more.
Going back to our original budget of $650, there are a few other options that are worth considering. First, we used a socket AM2 Sempron processor, but prices on single core Athlon 64 chips really aren't much higher. Clock for clock, you might get another 5%-10% performance increase, but in the end you're still going to be GPU limited in games. If your primary concern isn't gaming, then you really have to consider what you plan on doing with the computer.
For most office tasks, all of the systems -- even without overclocking -- are more than sufficient. If you plan on running some applications that can benefit from SMP configurations, dual core processors are definitely a worthwhile upgrade. Whether you want to make a purchase of the Pentium 805 now or wait for the reduced prices on Athlon X2 and Pentium D processors that are coming later this month is up to you. It is also worth mentioning that Intel's product road maps don't seem to indicate any new budget chips coming out in the near future; once Core 2 Duo launches, Intel will be further shifting its NetBurst products into the budget price sector, so this overview of the current budget platforms will continue to be valid for several more months at least.
The bottom line? You really can get a ton of computing power for a reasonable price these days. 18 months ago, a $500 computer would have consisted of a moderate Athlon XP or Celeron D processor, 512 MB of RAM, and integrated graphics. Another $150 would have given you an upgrade to a Radeon 9600 Pro and possibly 1 GB of RAM. For now, Moore's "Law" seems to be holding steady, as dollar for dollar we've more than doubled performance. Outside of gaming, many people might not actually need that much processing power, but when Windows Vista launches next year we have a feeling Microsoft will find lots of new ways to bring your computer to its knees. As always, though, we recommend people upgrade only when they personally are unhappy with the level of performance (or stability) that their current computer offers. Something better is always right around the corner.
So we tested three "budget" platforms today with varying results. The one firm recommendation we can make should come as no surprise. Simply put, socket 754 is a dead end, even though performance is still generally acceptable. AMD might continue to support it, and the motherboards and chips are on the market at reasonable prices, but for a slight increase in price you will definitely get more potential out of socket AM2 or socket 775. Unfortunately, as nice as the Biostar TForce 550 motherboard appears, it seems to be in need of some updates before it can truly become a great budget overclocker. (Never underestimate the importance of a motherboard BIOS.) Still, we're inclined to recommend socket AM2 right now, as we have yet to see any budget socket 775 motherboards available that will support Core 2 Duo chips. Hopefully, that will change during the next few weeks.
What else have we learned? If you're really interested in high resolution plus high image quality gaming, there's no substitute for a fast graphics card. The 7600 GT is a very impressive card given the price, but you're not going to run UXGA/WUXGA (1600x1200/1920x1200) resolutions with 4xAA on any of the more recent titles. If you don't have a monitor capable of supporting higher resolutions, however, it's currently one of the most reasonable gaming GPUs on the market for SXGA (1280x1024) gaming. A few titles (F.E.A.R., Oblivion, Call of Duty 2) will need to run with lowered detail settings, as will future titles, but unless you're ready to spend $250 or more on the graphics card we would recommend sticking with the 7600 GT. Fans of ATI will get similar performance - better in some games, slightly worse in others - from the X1800 GTO, typically for about $25 more.
Going back to our original budget of $650, there are a few other options that are worth considering. First, we used a socket AM2 Sempron processor, but prices on single core Athlon 64 chips really aren't much higher. Clock for clock, you might get another 5%-10% performance increase, but in the end you're still going to be GPU limited in games. If your primary concern isn't gaming, then you really have to consider what you plan on doing with the computer.
For most office tasks, all of the systems -- even without overclocking -- are more than sufficient. If you plan on running some applications that can benefit from SMP configurations, dual core processors are definitely a worthwhile upgrade. Whether you want to make a purchase of the Pentium 805 now or wait for the reduced prices on Athlon X2 and Pentium D processors that are coming later this month is up to you. It is also worth mentioning that Intel's product road maps don't seem to indicate any new budget chips coming out in the near future; once Core 2 Duo launches, Intel will be further shifting its NetBurst products into the budget price sector, so this overview of the current budget platforms will continue to be valid for several more months at least.
The bottom line? You really can get a ton of computing power for a reasonable price these days. 18 months ago, a $500 computer would have consisted of a moderate Athlon XP or Celeron D processor, 512 MB of RAM, and integrated graphics. Another $150 would have given you an upgrade to a Radeon 9600 Pro and possibly 1 GB of RAM. For now, Moore's "Law" seems to be holding steady, as dollar for dollar we've more than doubled performance. Outside of gaming, many people might not actually need that much processing power, but when Windows Vista launches next year we have a feeling Microsoft will find lots of new ways to bring your computer to its knees. As always, though, we recommend people upgrade only when they personally are unhappy with the level of performance (or stability) that their current computer offers. Something better is always right around the corner.
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mariush - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - link
88.7 CPU AMD Sempron 3100+67.2 MB Asus K8N4-E-SE
45.2 512Mb DDRAM 400MHz Samsung
85.1 250 GB Maxtor 16Mb SATA II 300 6V250F0 DiamondMax 10 with NCQ
41.9 ASUS DRW-1608P3S
86.1 ASUS EN6600-SILENCER/TD/128
26.3 400 W Generic case
That would be budget.. $440 plus taxes.. and runs any game currently on the market.
JarredWalton - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - link
Runs or runs well? 7600 GT is going to be about 75% faster in GPU-limited benches. 512MB of RAM "runs any game" sure - but some games suck with less than 1GB. Actually, a lot of games suck with only 512MB RAM. Look up about 4 posts for my budget recommendations. Either you don't care about gaming (get IGP), or gaming is important (get at least 7600 GT). Anything else is basically limping along.Kougar - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - link
Thanks for another great article! Really appreciated this one as it answered my Sempron vs 805 vs X2 3800+ curiosity that'd been growing, using the 7600GT no less! No component nitpicking from here! ;)Since ya brought up the E6300, I just wanted to ensure y'all had seen this website that has a authentic 2mb cache version, that included some very lovely benchmarks and even added some E6300 @ 2.4ghz benchmarks to boot. I can't say the revision number of the chip used though to gauge if this was a newer or older not quite as OC-able chip. Er, if I didn't say so before, it's in French, but that's what Google is for! http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/306/merom-et-co...">Linky
Oh, and I guess while on the subject... NDA lifts for y'all tomorrow right?? ;)
JarredWalton - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - link
Yup. Tomorrow is the big day. :)Paladin165 - Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - link
Jarred, thanks for the guide. It was just what I needed. However I do think it might be interesting to do a kind of "below-budget" guide. Find the cheapest possible system that still runs XP reliably, and uses new, off-the-shelf parts to do it. I do feel like anandtech focuses too much on rather high-end parts. I have to plead with my wife for any part over $50!I mean when you say budget gaming you really mean budget cutting-edge gaming. Don't forget that every game worth playing wasn't made last year...there are thousands of games out there that the integrated GeForce 6100 or 6150 handles fine. Many of these are better than current games, after all there are only one or two really classic games released every year. The only star game on metacritic right now is Oblivion.
I'd like to see what kind of computer you could buy today for $200 or $300 total.
JarredWalton - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - link
Not sure you can really get under $300 without making some serious compromises. I insist on:1GB RAM
DVDR
Everything else is up for change. So let's see....
Socket AM2:
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=477...">ECS Xpress 300 CrossFire RS485M-M $62
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=460...">AMD Sempron 3000+ 256KB Manila (1.6 GHz) $62
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=435...">G.Skill PC-4200 2x512MB Extreme NT $75
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=436...">BenQ 16X DW1650 $33
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=172...">Hitachi SATA 3.0Gbps 80GB Deskstar 7K80 $48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">Generic Linkworld Case + 430W PSU $37
TOTAL = $317
Alternative AM2 Parts:
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=482...">ECS nForce 410 GeForce 6100 C51GM-M $72
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=435...">G.Skill PC-5300 2x512MB Extreme LA $85
Socket 754:
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=418...">MSI nForce 410 GeForce 6100 K8NGM-V $62
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=293...">AMD Sempron 64 2800+ 256KB Palermo (1.6 GHz) $56
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=433...">G.Skill PC-3200 1024MB Value NT $84
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=436...">BenQ 16X DW1650 $33
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=172...">Hitachi SATA 3.0Gbps 80GB Deskstar 7K80 $48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">Generic Linkworld Case + 430W PSU $37
TOTAL = $320
Socket 775:
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=425...">MSI Xpress 200 RC410M-L $68
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=438...">Intel Pentium D 805 533FSB 2x1MB $114
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=435...">G.Skill PC-4200 2x512MB Extreme NT $75
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=436...">BenQ 16X DW1650 $33
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=172...">Hitachi SATA 3.0Gbps 80GB Deskstar 7K80 $48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">Generic Linkworld Case + 430W PSU $37
TOTAL = $375
Alternative 775 Parts:
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=220...">Intel Pentium D 820 800FSB 2x1MB $109 After Rebate ($146 otherwise)
http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=435...">G.Skill PC-5300 2x512MB Extreme LA $85
I spent much more on the Pentium D setup (relatively speaking), but that second CPU core can be extremely helpful. Even without OC'ing, the PD805 is definitely faster than just about any Sempron chip. Run Folding@Home for example, and you can get upwards of 400 PPD compared to about 200 PPD for Sempron chips. However, these are all just general picks and not something I've actually tested or benchmarked. Maybe some of the mobos suck - I don't really know for sure. At $317, the AM2 is a nice pick. No sense in getting 754 for $3 more. $375 for the PD805 system is also quite nice, for a dual core config.
jonp - Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - link
Question:For Socket 775 you list the MSI Xpress 200 RC410M-L motherboard. Neither NewEgg nor MSI show this board compatible with a Pentium D processor. Will the Dual Core Intel Pentium D 805 actually run on this motherboard?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?mode...">http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?mode...
JarredWalton - Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - link
That's the problem with trying to cut costs. :| Apparently I screwed up (since this was a quicker post than I'd use for article recommendations). So swap out the MSI board for...Hell, let's go with the ASRock Core 2 compatible model. :) (If you want to overclock, probably go elsewhere!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...">ASRock 775Dual-VSTA ($64)
I'm stuck looking for an IGP solution for socket 775 that will support Pentium D. Looks like you might need to get a discrete GPU or else stick with Intel 945G chipsets.
midfield - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link
Thanks for the review and comments.I'm wondering if you'd make recommendations on a motherboard for socket 775 which has more SATA ports, or a SATA controller card, and also a full tower case. I'd like to build an OpenSolaris+ZFS disk array server for the home.
Viditor - Monday, July 17, 2006 - link
I'm surprised you didn't include the Asus M2NPV-VM (AM2) in the build...Raid 5 (as well as the usual 0/1/10)
Dual Head (both VGA and DVI) output
HDTV audio and video including RGB
nVidia 6150 graphics
Firewire
GBE
All for under $90...