ThermalTake Tenor (cont'd)
Despite the openness of the case, the installation of our test bed into the Tenor was rather frustrating, mainly because we kept making assumptions about what would fit and we were wrong. The first snarl involved our 5¼" optical drive.
It's much easier to install the 5¼" from the front of the case, and in these two shots, you can see how well an optical drive in the bottom position works.
This concept is by far the most universally acceptable stealthy solution, as it doesn't matter what the optical drive's configuration looks like at all. So far, so good...
First, we decided to try installing the hard drive in the third (internal only) position of the 3½" bay. The cage itself is very easy to remove and install components.
However, after placing the cage back in place and testing to see if the motherboard would fit, we realized that putting the CD drive into the bottom position rendered it impossible to put the motherboard in at all! The visible standoff isn't actually in the proper place to fit our motherboard in this picture, but it does help to get an idea of how much further the motherboard needs to move to get into position.
If a smaller motherboard was used, perhaps this wouldn't be a problem, but it still frustrates us that the best bay to put the CD drive into is the most problematic. Moving our drive to the top position was also a problem though, as the push-button door couldn't close then. Granted, our drive's bezel is thicker than most, but not by that much. The middle slot worked luckily, but after settling on this position and trying the motherboard again, we ran into snarl number two.
The hard drive in any position in the triple 3½" cage would make it impossible to plug in our motherboard's ATX power connector. Again, this is a problem that only applies to particular components, but this is a relatively popular location for the motherboard power, so it's still a bit of a problem.
Again though, the Tenor comes through with its wealth of options and gives us another choice. We moved the hard drive to the left brace (which includes two slots for hard drives), visible upside-down in the picture here.
Sliding the power supply into place couldn't be easier. This is one aspect of the Tenor that easily trumps the other cases looked at in this review, especially since size isn't an issue really at all in this configuration.
With motherboard, power supply, and the left-side brace in place, this is what the case now looks like.
Despite the openness of the case, the installation of our test bed into the Tenor was rather frustrating, mainly because we kept making assumptions about what would fit and we were wrong. The first snarl involved our 5¼" optical drive.
It's much easier to install the 5¼" from the front of the case, and in these two shots, you can see how well an optical drive in the bottom position works.
This concept is by far the most universally acceptable stealthy solution, as it doesn't matter what the optical drive's configuration looks like at all. So far, so good...
First, we decided to try installing the hard drive in the third (internal only) position of the 3½" bay. The cage itself is very easy to remove and install components.
However, after placing the cage back in place and testing to see if the motherboard would fit, we realized that putting the CD drive into the bottom position rendered it impossible to put the motherboard in at all! The visible standoff isn't actually in the proper place to fit our motherboard in this picture, but it does help to get an idea of how much further the motherboard needs to move to get into position.
If a smaller motherboard was used, perhaps this wouldn't be a problem, but it still frustrates us that the best bay to put the CD drive into is the most problematic. Moving our drive to the top position was also a problem though, as the push-button door couldn't close then. Granted, our drive's bezel is thicker than most, but not by that much. The middle slot worked luckily, but after settling on this position and trying the motherboard again, we ran into snarl number two.
The hard drive in any position in the triple 3½" cage would make it impossible to plug in our motherboard's ATX power connector. Again, this is a problem that only applies to particular components, but this is a relatively popular location for the motherboard power, so it's still a bit of a problem.
Again though, the Tenor comes through with its wealth of options and gives us another choice. We moved the hard drive to the left brace (which includes two slots for hard drives), visible upside-down in the picture here.
Sliding the power supply into place couldn't be easier. This is one aspect of the Tenor that easily trumps the other cases looked at in this review, especially since size isn't an issue really at all in this configuration.
With motherboard, power supply, and the left-side brace in place, this is what the case now looks like.
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Tamale - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
The 'POS' power supply happens to deliver steadier voltages to the highest-end gear I've gotten my hands on (and no, the P4 test bed isn't the most powerful thing I've tested it in) than anything else that's passed through my hands, and that includes over a dozen power supplies by high-end manufacturers. I'm no reviewer of power supplies yet, as we're still working on that, but I guarantee you that this is a fine unit, especially for the area of case reviews, because in quiet mode it does a fantastic job of staying silent enough to hear the case fans and still provides rock-solid voltages to a stressed-out system. It also gets warm when in quiet mode in the cases that don't ventilate the power supply well enough, which is another good measure of a case. Perhaps most important however is the modular nature of the unit, and even though I've tried other modular units none were as quiet as the MadDog.Secondly, the thermaltake golden orb II at full voltage is quieter than any of zalman's coolers at full voltage. While I understand that the zalman will probably get lower temperatures, It is absolutely essential that the CPU cooler in my test bed make as little noise as possible, and the golden orb II does just that.
The recurring theme in your post seems to me to be that you want 'the perfect HTPC', but the whole idea of a case review is to isolate everything but the case as much as possible, and sometimes hotter components do a better job of illustrating the deficiencies of units than the latest and greatest.
Trust me on this one, if we used the absolute best gear available the comparisons would be much muddier.
As for the subjective comment, my scale of 1-10 can be thought of as a scale of tolerance.. with 5 basically being the threshold... anything higher than that really is 'too loud for the given application' and anything lower than 4 is 'acceptable'. It's not meant to be a numerically accurate scale of any sort. I felt very comfortable with the final subject ratings I gave these cases, because the Tenor and PC-800B just barely passed my personal threshold test, and I believe most users will agree.
tayhimself - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
I hope you realize other PSUs are likely quieter and more efficient than "Mad Dog". Sure the may be quiet to your ears, but thats too subjective to really mean anything. Sadly, you rate the modular nature as being an important issue when it is not. The PSU getting warm in quiet mode may be a sign of a PSU not getting enough airflow.And you say "its silent enough to hear case fans". While that can be true, the PSU and Tt golden orb noise signatures can drown out subtler differences between the cases in terms of noise of the case fans. This is almost obvious from your review as you dont perceive the difference of 9 dB to be significant. Its better to use quality quiet components so you can tell what the case is contributing to the noise spectrum. Since this is about making case buying decisions, the other factors are best isolated.
Avalon - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
Get crackin'.mrgq912 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
to tired to read the article but first post.mrgq912 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
okay now that I have that out of my system. How come you guys never review stuff from alienware or voodoopc. Those guys make HTPC's aswell. I never every heard of the players in this review making HTPC's untill today. Well nice to know i have options.Would buy one if i could, untill then i will live with my ati tv wonder elite.
ksherman - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link
uh, cuz Alienware and Voodoo are over priced peices of DooDoo... and because this site is more geared around people that build their own machines...