ASUS Comments on Intel Shortages, U.S.-China Trade War
by Anton Shilov on November 14, 2018 3:00 PM ESTASUS this week released its financial results for the third quarter of the year, and in the process issued comments regarding two pressing issues: shortages of Intel’s chipsets and processors, as well as the ongoing trade dispute between the U.S. and China. As it turns out, the situation is tough in both cases: tight supply will persist for quarters, whereas the trade feud may force ASUS and other companies to relocate its production facilities from China to other countries.
Shortages of Intel CPUs to Persist Through Q2 or Q3 2019
As reported, high demand for high-profile products has increased pressure on Intel’s factory network and forced the chipmaker to prioritize fabrication of its high-margin large-die Core and Xeon CPUs over other products in the recent months. Consequently, shipments of entry-level products made using 14 nm process technology are tight right now. In a bid to tackle the problem, Intel is in the process of allocating $1 billion to boost production of chips at its manufacturing facilities located in Oregon, Arizona, Ireland, and Israel. Meanwhile, it takes months to install new equipment into fabs, so any new step-and-scan tools acquired this quarter will unlikely have any impact on fab throughput until end of Q1 next year. ASUS certainly knows about that and admits that it expects tight supply to persist till Q2 or Q3 2019.
“We cannot answer on behalf of Intel,” said Jerry Shen, chief executive ASUS during the company’s earnings conference. “For example, data center will be the priority for Intel shipments, but priority is something we cannot answer on behalf of Intel. The shortage will affect component levels the most, such as the motherboard. Currently we believe that this will not be resolved before the Q2 of next year. Perhaps, it will be resolved in Q3 of next year. So, from now to next year we face many uncertainties in terms of CPU shortages.”
One thing to keep in mind here is that the first two quarters of the year are usually not big for PC shipments, so if ASUS is correct in its assumption that shortages will persist until Q3, this may indicate that there is a backlog of chips that Intel will have to ship in the coming quarters. Meanwhile, ASUS does not expect the chip giant to fulfill these orders for a while.
When asked whether ASUS could offset shortages of Intel processors with AMD chips, the company said that it would certainly use more CPUs from AMD, but mainly for markets where acceptance of such products is high enough.
U.S.-China Trade War May Force ASUS to Relocate Some Production Capacities
Another pressing issue that ASUS management had to address is of course the ongoing trade conflict between the U.S. and China. The short-term problem that ASUS is facing is currency fluctuations and the need to hedge risks, which has an effect on already thin profit margins. However, longer-term problems could be far more challenging.
The tariffs imposed by the U.S. on China-made goods may force not only ASUS, but also other hardware makers to relocate some of their Chinese production capacity to other countries. ASUS is currently considering Taiwan, Vietnam, and other countries in Southeast Asia as candidates for relocation. In fact, the company already has production facilities in Taiwan, but the question is whether it has enough capacity to meet current demand for components, or will have to invest in expansion.
In addition to moving production facilities, hardware producers may need to switch to other suppliers of components. Right now, ASUS is considering the relocation of its own PC components manufacturing as an urgent matter. In other words, if the company moves assembly of, say, graphics cards and motherboards outside of China, it will also have to find new suppliers of small parts like capacitors, connectors, sockets, and so on.
As for impact on pricing of ASUS-branded hardware, the head of the company said that the manufacturer would make its best effort to maintain its market leadership in a bid to be able to determine prices. In fact, the company stressed that a plain increase of notebook prices would not work without increasing their value for the end user, particularly in well-developed regions like Europe and the U.S.
To sum up, there are a number of changes that are happening on the market right now, though the exact results of these changes remain to be seen.
Related Reading:
- Intel Investing $1B to Meet 14nm Demand: Prioritizing High-End Core and Xeon
- Intel Announces Q3 FY 2018 Earnings: Record Quarter
- Intel to Split Manufacturing Group into Three Segments
- Intel Announces 9th Gen Core CPUs: Core i9-9900K (8-Core), i7-9700K, & i5-9600K
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Dotans - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
Something here is strange.In an elaborate market with two suppliers, one of them has capacity issue and the other one DEMAND issue?
Does AMD has a secret capacity issue that no one wants to talk about?
evanh - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
WinTel duo still reins supreme. Like Windoze for the desktop, Intel is the assumed only choice by the masses. Well, the ones that don't just buy on price alone that is. And Intel is keeping it that way by lowering its prices, even without having the capacity to supply. M$ has done the same for corporates/governments that begin the move to Linux. Of course, no supply problem there.timecop1818 - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
What a ridiculous and retarded post by a lunix fanatic.What the fuck does a worthless not used by anyone OS have to do with Intel not having manufacturing capacity?? Shaking my head.
Go back to your parents basement and play with some systemd configuration files with vi. Stay out of adult conversations.
evanh - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
It's an illustration on how the free market works - to explain the lack of traction the Ryzen's are getting compared to the Core's. Same thing happened with the Athlon vs P4.Samus - Thursday, November 15, 2018 - link
AMD is having less publicized production issues as well. Although a different process (and in some cases a different fab) it's hard to forget about the GPU shortages that plagued H2-2017 through H1-2018.The reason you are seeing CPU shortages all around isn't because of a sudden spike in demand from a completely recovered PC industry (hah) but simply due to the complexity of manufacturing 14nm chips using current process and lithography. Intel only has ONE fab producing 14++ right now, and it is speculated AMD is having less than desirable yields on their high-end high-transistor chips.
But there certainly is the Intel love fest to blame. There always is. But hey, realistically, if you were buying a mobile processor for anything but a 15"+ laptop would you really want something other than an 8th gen Intel? The i5-8250/8350 is a 15w part that is faster than almost every sub-65w AMD mobile and desktop part.
duploxxx - Thursday, November 15, 2018 - link
this is exactly the reason of intel bias when you look at your own comment.stating that a 8250-8350 15w part is faster than almost any blabla sub65w amd part
so full of shit....brainless posters no clue how to interprete benchmarks, go buy some more intel brand believing that everything is always better you just proved exactly what the original posters were mentioning.
that is why they compare a R5 to the i7 8550 right..
https://www.techspot.com/review/1545-amd-ryzen-5-2...
heffeque - Thursday, November 15, 2018 - link
I love AMD, but Raven Ridge is really un-optimized (huge idle consumption, that's why you barely see any brands using them on their laptops), and driver support is... not very good. That's why I decided to go Intel for my laptop. And trust me, I really really tried to find a decent Raven Ridge laptop, but all brands had battery life problems with them.If I had to buy a plugged-in computer today, I'd definitely go AMD.
Thing is: most computers bought nowadays are laptops, so AMD is still missing out in a huge market.
Either they perform better on consumption levels for long battery life, or they'll still be very noncompetitive in half of the CPU market.
SleepyFE - Sunday, November 18, 2018 - link
I would like to school anyone reading this. That was not an adult reaction. Also he missed the comparisons of Intel/AMD and Windows/Linux and just made nonsense connection between Intel and linux.Dotans - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
No one is reducing prices in capacity constraints situation.The market demand for low-end systems it grater than supply so your comment make no sense.
evanh - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link
I'm only stating what is history. Intel dropped their prices across the board markedly as each Zen part hit the streets.Presumably, demand for Intel parts has ramped up since.