We previously discussed R580 in some detail. A recent ATI advisory sent out to AIBs claims that R580 will utilize a 90nm process, just like R520. RV535, ATI's successor to the X1000 midrange segment, was also included in that advisory. Rather than 65nm or 90nm, the advisory claims that RV535 will utilize an 80nm process. Although this process size seems non-conventional, both ATI and NVIDIA had products based on unusual processes before, such as ATI's R410 110nm chip.
Both of ATI's main foundries, TSMC and UMC, have production facilities capable of 80nm production. Both of these facilities are capable of 65nm production, but for now this seems reserved to prototypes as mass production 65nm only exists for Intel and IBM. Neither ATI nor NVIDIA have foundries of their own, so the leap to 65nm on graphics may have to wait while TSMC and UMC play catch up.
Both of ATI's main foundries, TSMC and UMC, have production facilities capable of 80nm production. Both of these facilities are capable of 65nm production, but for now this seems reserved to prototypes as mass production 65nm only exists for Intel and IBM. Neither ATI nor NVIDIA have foundries of their own, so the leap to 65nm on graphics may have to wait while TSMC and UMC play catch up.
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ElFenix - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
x1600xtpe?Jep4444 - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
the Rv535 is also being made on an 80nm processElFenix - Sunday, November 13, 2005 - link
nothing gets by you, slickJep4444 - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
maybe ATI has an X1700 planned to combat an eventual GeForce 7600 since im sure nVidia will try to one up themLTC8K6 - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
RV360 was a unique 130nm low-k black diamond process. That's why it was clocked at 500mhz stock so long ago.gunblade - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
TSMC is now shuttling the 65nm for qualification now and from what I heard the first batch commercial product is expected by end of next year, coincidentally aligned with Vista launch.All process after 90nm node is Low-k. A next gen material change to extreme low-k (ELK) is initially schedule on 65nm but not expected until the process change to 45nm because there are some issues in dicing and packaging.
chilled - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
Don't you mean R420???coldpower27 - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
I believe he means RV410 (X700), or R430 (X800) both these products are based on the 0.11 micron process. This is hardly unusual in the graphics industry, they have these half nodes in between the proper nodes. The R420 is a 0.13 micron low-k product.For instance there were the 0.22 micron process, and 0.15 micron process.
NV10 Geforce 256 used the 0.22 micron process.
R300 (9700/9500), R350 (9800), NV20 (GF3/TI), NV25 (GF4TI), used the 0.15 micron process.
Clauzii - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
And the RV350 (9600/Pro/XT) was 0,11u also.Jep4444 - Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - link
the Rv350 was 130nm(the 9600XT was the Rv360 anyways)its the Rv370(X300, X550) that used 110nm aswell as the G70