EVGA 680i LT SLI: NVIDIA's 680i Cost Reduced
by Gary Key on March 28, 2007 4:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Since our first look at the 680i SLI chipset back in November we have been impressed with its performance and overall features. What was even more impressive was the fact that the chipset debuted on a motherboard that was designed by NVIDIA and built for NVIDIA's launch partners. This launch basically followed the path of the successful AM2 590SLI introduction except this time NVIDIA introduced and marketed the only board available with the 680i SLI chipset through a select number of partners. Although the 680i SLI motherboard was a reference design, it catered to the computer enthusiasts with a long list of features and a BIOS specifically aimed at the overclocking community.
It was several weeks before a motherboard manufacturer would offer a competing 680i solution. ASUS was the first non-reference board partner to offer competition to NVIDIA's reference design and it would take a few months before the likes of abit and Gigabyte were able to respond with their internal designs. We are still waiting on DFI's version to come to market and other motherboard manufacturers such as ECS and Biostar decided it was in their best interest to offer the reference board design that is built by Foxconn. The majority of NVIDIA's motherboard reference partners are actually heavily involved in the distribution of their graphics solutions with EVGA being the focal point of NVIDIA's reference program at this time.
The 680i SLI chipset has had a bumpy introduction with numerous issues being discovered and eventually fixed through a series of BIOS releases or new board revisions. The latest incarnation of the 680i SLI reference design from EVGA has solved our last remaining issues that concerned quad core overclocking performance. The non-reference partners have solid designs that have been hampered by immature BIOS releases but even those issues are starting to be resolved with the latest BIOS updates. While the 680i SLI based motherboards are finally on the right track from a performance and compatibility viewpoint, the pricing on these boards have been embarrassingly expensive to date. We have seen prices ranging from a low of $199 (EVGA 680i SLI board with rebate) to just over $400 for the ASUS Striker Extreme. On average, the majority of the 680i SLI boards sell in the $250 and up range.
With the 650i SLI boards just coming to market in volume and the 650i Ultra boards still not available, NVIDIA has had a difficult time in the Intel market from a competitive cost position. NVIDIA is starting to address that issue and is lowering the cost of entry into the mid to upper performance market with its new 680i LT SLI chipset. Like the 680i SLI chipset launch, this junior member of the 680i family will be available on a reference board design through a select number of partners as of this week. Once again, EVGA is one of the first partners to market with their 680i LT SLI motherboard priced at a more reasonable $199 (currently $174.99 with rebate). This is $50 less than the standard $249 MSRP for the 680i SLI reference boards but only $10 to $20 less than current street prices with rebates. This small difference in pricing could come back to haunt NVIDIA in the end, but we will have to see what street prices are before coming to any final conclusion.
Of course, before presenting performance results and discussing the complexities of this new reference design we need to first explain the differences between the 680i SLI and 680i LT SLI chipsets. We basically believe the 680i LT SLI SPP is a renamed 680i SLI SPP that has been feature reduced or more than likely neutered by the BIOS. The LT SPP carries the C55-P-N-A2 part number designation with its big brother being labeled with a C55-SLIX16N-A2 moniker. The real differences in the chipsets are in their choice of MCPs with the 680i LT utilizing the nForce 570 SLI MCP and the 680i SLI sporting the nForce 590 SLI MCP. It is always interesting to see how many times a recent NVIDIA MCP can be utilized in a different design or paired up with an ever increasing amount of SPP choices. We have to hand it to NVIDIA for having the ability to mix and match chipsets at will to create to new product line, but the constant renaming of the same chipsets has become tiresome and at times confusing.
With the chipset designations out of the way, let's see what the real differences are at this time. Both chipsets officially support front-side bus speeds up to 1333MHz so support for the upcoming Intel processors are guaranteed as is a certain amount of overclocking headroom. Both chipsets advertise "best-in-class" overclocking capability with the 680i SLI officially being termed "best" in this regard by NVIDIA. We think they are both equal but due to BIOS limitations we will probably never find out.
The 680i SLI offers full support for Enhanced Performance Profile (SLI-Ready) memory at speeds up to 1200MHz with the LT version only offering official 800MHz support. However, this only means you will have to tweak the memory speed and timings yourself in the BIOS, something most enthusiasts do anyway. We had no issue running our LT equipped board memory speeds up to 1275MHz so this feature deduction is not a real issue, although we wonder why they even offered limited support. Either do it all the way or don't do it all in our opinion.
Also missing in action is the Link Boost functionality that allows for an automatic 25% increase in the speed of the HyperTransport links that connect the SPP and MCP chipsets when utilized with an approved GeForce graphics solution. Although the performance improvements in benchmarks have been minimal to date, we have seen some minor increases in certain benchmarks with the 8800GTX cards. However, the GPU Ex option is available as is the QuickSync technology that improves memory performance when the memory is operating in sync mode. Once again, we have seen minimal performance differences in actual applications but every little bit helps.
The real differences between the chipsets are the missing features on the LT chipset. These include the loss of two USB ports (10 down to 8) and a Gigabit Ethernet port. The DualNet teaming feature is no longer available but will probably not be missed by the vast majority of users, nor will the loss of the second Ethernet port. However, the loss of two USB ports could cause issues with users who have several USB based peripherals.
One of the last options to go is the third physical PCI Express x16 slot that operated at x8 speeds electrically. While the primary purpose for this slot centered on adding a third graphics card for physics acceleration that is still not available, it will be missed by users who had x4 or x8 devices such as PCI Express based RAID controller cards. The remaining differences between the boards is the lack of a passive cooling solution, LED post code display, onboard power and reset buttons, and speaker. Last, but by no means least, is an option reduced BIOS that is designed to offer just enough options to overclock the board to a certain degree, but it is missing just enough options to frustrate most users who will be purchasing this board based on its performance capabilities.
This leads us into today's performance review of the EVGA 680i LT SLI. In our article today we will briefly go over the board layout and features, provide a few important performance results, and discuss our findings with the board. We will provide further in-depth performance results of this product in a later article. With that said, let's take a quick look at this interesting board and see if it lives up to its hype.
It was several weeks before a motherboard manufacturer would offer a competing 680i solution. ASUS was the first non-reference board partner to offer competition to NVIDIA's reference design and it would take a few months before the likes of abit and Gigabyte were able to respond with their internal designs. We are still waiting on DFI's version to come to market and other motherboard manufacturers such as ECS and Biostar decided it was in their best interest to offer the reference board design that is built by Foxconn. The majority of NVIDIA's motherboard reference partners are actually heavily involved in the distribution of their graphics solutions with EVGA being the focal point of NVIDIA's reference program at this time.
The 680i SLI chipset has had a bumpy introduction with numerous issues being discovered and eventually fixed through a series of BIOS releases or new board revisions. The latest incarnation of the 680i SLI reference design from EVGA has solved our last remaining issues that concerned quad core overclocking performance. The non-reference partners have solid designs that have been hampered by immature BIOS releases but even those issues are starting to be resolved with the latest BIOS updates. While the 680i SLI based motherboards are finally on the right track from a performance and compatibility viewpoint, the pricing on these boards have been embarrassingly expensive to date. We have seen prices ranging from a low of $199 (EVGA 680i SLI board with rebate) to just over $400 for the ASUS Striker Extreme. On average, the majority of the 680i SLI boards sell in the $250 and up range.
With the 650i SLI boards just coming to market in volume and the 650i Ultra boards still not available, NVIDIA has had a difficult time in the Intel market from a competitive cost position. NVIDIA is starting to address that issue and is lowering the cost of entry into the mid to upper performance market with its new 680i LT SLI chipset. Like the 680i SLI chipset launch, this junior member of the 680i family will be available on a reference board design through a select number of partners as of this week. Once again, EVGA is one of the first partners to market with their 680i LT SLI motherboard priced at a more reasonable $199 (currently $174.99 with rebate). This is $50 less than the standard $249 MSRP for the 680i SLI reference boards but only $10 to $20 less than current street prices with rebates. This small difference in pricing could come back to haunt NVIDIA in the end, but we will have to see what street prices are before coming to any final conclusion.
Of course, before presenting performance results and discussing the complexities of this new reference design we need to first explain the differences between the 680i SLI and 680i LT SLI chipsets. We basically believe the 680i LT SLI SPP is a renamed 680i SLI SPP that has been feature reduced or more than likely neutered by the BIOS. The LT SPP carries the C55-P-N-A2 part number designation with its big brother being labeled with a C55-SLIX16N-A2 moniker. The real differences in the chipsets are in their choice of MCPs with the 680i LT utilizing the nForce 570 SLI MCP and the 680i SLI sporting the nForce 590 SLI MCP. It is always interesting to see how many times a recent NVIDIA MCP can be utilized in a different design or paired up with an ever increasing amount of SPP choices. We have to hand it to NVIDIA for having the ability to mix and match chipsets at will to create to new product line, but the constant renaming of the same chipsets has become tiresome and at times confusing.
With the chipset designations out of the way, let's see what the real differences are at this time. Both chipsets officially support front-side bus speeds up to 1333MHz so support for the upcoming Intel processors are guaranteed as is a certain amount of overclocking headroom. Both chipsets advertise "best-in-class" overclocking capability with the 680i SLI officially being termed "best" in this regard by NVIDIA. We think they are both equal but due to BIOS limitations we will probably never find out.
The 680i SLI offers full support for Enhanced Performance Profile (SLI-Ready) memory at speeds up to 1200MHz with the LT version only offering official 800MHz support. However, this only means you will have to tweak the memory speed and timings yourself in the BIOS, something most enthusiasts do anyway. We had no issue running our LT equipped board memory speeds up to 1275MHz so this feature deduction is not a real issue, although we wonder why they even offered limited support. Either do it all the way or don't do it all in our opinion.
Also missing in action is the Link Boost functionality that allows for an automatic 25% increase in the speed of the HyperTransport links that connect the SPP and MCP chipsets when utilized with an approved GeForce graphics solution. Although the performance improvements in benchmarks have been minimal to date, we have seen some minor increases in certain benchmarks with the 8800GTX cards. However, the GPU Ex option is available as is the QuickSync technology that improves memory performance when the memory is operating in sync mode. Once again, we have seen minimal performance differences in actual applications but every little bit helps.
The real differences between the chipsets are the missing features on the LT chipset. These include the loss of two USB ports (10 down to 8) and a Gigabit Ethernet port. The DualNet teaming feature is no longer available but will probably not be missed by the vast majority of users, nor will the loss of the second Ethernet port. However, the loss of two USB ports could cause issues with users who have several USB based peripherals.
One of the last options to go is the third physical PCI Express x16 slot that operated at x8 speeds electrically. While the primary purpose for this slot centered on adding a third graphics card for physics acceleration that is still not available, it will be missed by users who had x4 or x8 devices such as PCI Express based RAID controller cards. The remaining differences between the boards is the lack of a passive cooling solution, LED post code display, onboard power and reset buttons, and speaker. Last, but by no means least, is an option reduced BIOS that is designed to offer just enough options to overclock the board to a certain degree, but it is missing just enough options to frustrate most users who will be purchasing this board based on its performance capabilities.
This leads us into today's performance review of the EVGA 680i LT SLI. In our article today we will briefly go over the board layout and features, provide a few important performance results, and discuss our findings with the board. We will provide further in-depth performance results of this product in a later article. With that said, let's take a quick look at this interesting board and see if it lives up to its hype.
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MrWizard6600 - Thursday, March 29, 2007 - link
dont know the full details, but the newest P26 Bios from EVGA Removed LinkBoost support“LinkBoost was removed from nForce 680i SLI because it did not show significant demonstrable benefit in games. We had hoped newer games would take advantage of this additional bandwidth but this has not been the case. Please note that future BIOS upgrades will only remove the automatic overclocking component of LinkBoost. Users can still manually overclock the PCI-Express and HyperTransport buses in the BIOS."
SniperWulf - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
Any chance I can get that registry key that you deleted after the nv4_disp crash?yacoub - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
It's time to start recommending Supreme Commander to be the RTS game test choice. Now that there's a new RTS game that can crush systems (SupCom) the way FEAR did for FPS games for the last couple years, a game that makes use of multiple cores at that, we should start to see it used in the suite of games in future motherboard, cpu, and gpu tests. Perhaps Anandtech have already started planning for this?yyrkoon - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
Well, it is not an RTS game, but one I play frequently should also be used to test gaming rigs in my humble opinon. Titan Quest (Immortal Throne if deemed nessisary).My gaming Rig is not top of the line, but it is no slouch, and this game constantly drags in areas that are low light areas, or are outside, and night time. Anyhow, and game that brings my opteron 1210 / ABIT NF-M2 nView / 2 GB DDR2 6400 memory, eVGA 7600GT KO to a crawl, SHOULD be used as a benchmark, at least once in a while. F.E.A.R does not lag like this game does on my system . . .
Stele - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
I agree to an extent, as the current test suite's figures are starting to show their age a wee bit... 100+ FPS, as Quake ended up with newer CPUs/GPUs. Having said that, Anandtech was probably trying to ensure consistency in its tests, so that at the very least, past test results for other products can always be quite easily compared over time. Perhaps in the near future we might see it yet! :)JarredWalton - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
I believe Gary is looking at benching with Supreme Commander. That's one of the games that will be added in future reviews, as far as I know.yacoub - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
Awesome, glad to hear that! One can see the benefit to maintaining benchmark titles for as long as possible to allow the greatest comparison back to past reviews. On the up side, SupCom looks to easily task systems well into the future (much like FEAR has thus far since its release) and would be an excellent choice for the RTS benchmark game. :)yyrkoon - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
Firstly, I have to get this out. It is a completely LAME excuse for nVidia, eVGA, Foxconn, or whomever, to 'claim' the reason this board does not have passive cooling (OTES or equivelent), is to help cut costs. 20 bux less, and they rip out passive cooling ? Lame. Take ABITs NF-M2 nView $85usd , including passive cooling, and moderate other features. Granted, it is based on the NF4 chipset, but who cares, it has passive cooling, and loads of other features for the price.I have to agree somewhat with the first poster, this board is dead, before it even reaches market. Crippled features, missing other features, all for to save $20-$50 usd. Sorry nVidia, and whomever else, but you have not only completely wasted your time, but ours as well, for having to read a review on such a shitty product.
yacoub - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
very much agree. the passive cooling is (and should be) an integral feature of current generation motherboards. there's no reason ANY motherboard released today should require active northbridge (or southbridge) chipset cooling (unless you're overclocking, obviously).yyrkoon - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - link
One thing I did keep wondering the whole time I was reading the article, and you were mentioning how the BIOS was basically a crippled version of the full blown i680 SLI version was: 'I wonder how soon someone would mod a BIOS version based on the i680 SLI chipset BIOS, to add removed 'features' such as certain voltage settings, etc.'Also, Jarred, or whomever else would like to answer, how hot does the PWM section of this motherboard run ? Seems lately, dual core on up motherboards tend to run hot in the PWM.